From: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/16] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock in kernel mode
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:41:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180622224154.GD18979@romley-ivt3.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1806221334150.2402@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 01:59:44PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > The whole thing is simply:
> >
> > handle_ac()
> > {
> > if (user_mode(regs)) {
> > do_trap(AC, SIGBUS, ...);
> > } else {
> > disable_ac_on_local_cpu();
> > WARN_ONCE(1);
> > }
> > }
> >
> > That wants #AC enabled as early as possible so the kernel gets as much
> > coverage as it can. If it trips in the kernel it's a bug and needs to be
> > fixed and we can them fix ONE by ONE.
>
> That said, #AC is just yet another badly defined and hastily bolted on
> (mis)feature. This should have been:
>
> Bit A: Enable #AC if CPL < 3
> Bit B: Enable #AC if CPL == 3
>
> But that would have been too useful and would allow sensible use of #AC
> without creating software trainwrecks.
>
> Aside of that the spec says:
>
> 31 Disable LOCK# assertion for split locked access.
>
> Can you pretty please make sure that this bit enforces #AC enable? If 31 is
> ever set and such an access happens then the resulting havoc will takes
> ages to decode.
>
> That bit is also mentioned in the SDM with ZERO explanation why it exists
> in the first place and why anyone would ever enable it and without a big
> fat warning about the possible consequences. Can this pretty please be
> fixed?
The bit 31 already exits on all processors. Hardware always sets its value
as zero after power on. It has been legacy for 20 years. It was added for
one customer 20 years ago. Now Intel hardware design team doesn't expect
anyone to set the bit.
Currently Linux kernel doesn't define this bit and doesn't set this bit.
Thanks.
-Fenghua
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-22 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-27 15:45 [RFC PATCH 00/16] x86/split_lock: Enable #AC exception for split locked accesses Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG and enumerate #AC exception for split locked access feature Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock in kernel mode Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 10:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 11:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 22:41 ` Fenghua Yu [this message]
2018-06-22 22:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 23:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 23:18 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-23 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-23 4:20 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-23 9:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-23 15:05 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-24 0:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-24 1:17 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-24 6:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] x86/split_lock: Set up #AC exception for split locked accesses on all CPUs Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] x86/split_lock: Use non locked bit set instruction in set_cpu_cap Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-27 23:35 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-28 7:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-28 14:23 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-28 14:54 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] x86/split_lock: Use non atomic set and clear bit instructions in clear_cpufeature() Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] x86/split_lock: Save #AC setting for split lock in firmware in boot time and restore the setting in reboot Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 19:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 15:11 ` Alan Cox
2018-06-26 9:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-26 9:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-26 11:02 ` Alan Cox
2018-06-26 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] x86/split_lock: Handle suspend/hibernate and resume Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] x86/split_lock: Set split lock during EFI runtime service Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG to control #AC for split lock at boot time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:45 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] x86/split_lock: Add a debugfs interface to allow user to enable or disable #AC for split lock during run time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 18:43 ` Greg KH
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG to control #AC for split lock from kernel at boot time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] x86/split_lock: Add a debugfs interface to allow user to change how to handle split lock in kernel mode during run time Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] x86/split_lock: Add debugfs interface to control user mode behavior Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] x86/split_lock: Add debugfs interface to show and control firmware setting for split lock Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] x86/split_lock: Add CONFIG and debugfs interface for testing #AC for split lock in kernel mode Fenghua Yu
2018-05-27 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] x86/split_lock: Add user space split lock test in selftest Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] x86/split_lock: Enable #AC exception for split locked accesses Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:25 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 17:28 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:40 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-05-29 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-29 17:38 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 20:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 20:18 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 20:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 22:00 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:18 ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-21 22:42 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 22:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 23:05 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 22:43 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-21 22:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-23 18:47 ` Fenghua Yu
2018-06-22 9:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-22 9:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-21 20:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
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