From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>, g@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
ricardo.neri@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:11:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260626001138.GA19085@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260624052514.GA16859@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 10:25:14PM -0700, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 08:45:23AM +0100, Christian Loehle wrote:
> > On 6/23/26 08:20, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 at 01:55, Ricardo Neri
> > > <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> sched_balance_find_src_rq() avoids selecting a runqueue with a single
> > >> running task as busiest if doing so results in migrating the task to a
> > >> CPU with less than ~5% of extra capacity. It also unintentionally
> > >> prevents migrations between CPUs of identical capacity.
> > >>
> > >> When CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is enabled, load should be balanced across
> > >> clusters of CPUs with the same capacity. Allowing migration between CPUs
> > >> of identical capacity is necessary to meet this goal.
> > >>
> > >> Use arch_scale_cpu_capacity() to reflect architectural capacity, excluding
> > >
> > > capacity_of() reflects not only RT and irq pressure but also thermal
> > > pressure or system frequency capping.
> > > If dst cluster is under thermal mitigation but the source cluster is
> > > not, we probably shouldn't spread tasks across both clusters.
> > > Have you considered using get_actual_cpu_capacity() instead of
> > > arch_scale_cpu_capacity() ?
> >
> > Replacing arch_scale_cpu_capacity() with get_actual_cpu_capacity()
> > would make the == comparison below very unlikely to be true FWIW.
>
> Yes, this is what I thought too. I did not try with get_actual_cpu_capacity(),
> though. Perhaps on Intel processors it would work since rq->avg_hw.load_avg
> is not used, IIUC. I am not sure about cpufreq_pressure. I need to check.
>
> Still, it may work for Intel processors but not for ARM ones.
>
> > I think it's fine like that, I will prepare a follow-up anyway to make
> > it work for our "almost equal capacity" cluster systems and then also
> > consider switching to get_actual_cpu_capacity() since we include a margin
> > anyway.
>
> Great!
I confirmed that does not use rq->avg_hw.load_avg nor cpufreq_pressure.
Hence, get_actual_cpu_capacity() worked for me on Intel hybrid processors,
but it would not on other architectures.
So perhaps we can stick with arch_scale_cpu_capacity() for now? The series
from Christian will add a margin, making the use of get_actual_cpu_capacity()
feasible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 0:05 [PATCH v5 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] sched/fair: Do not skip CPUs of similar capacity with busy SMT siblings Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-24 5:25 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] sched/fair: Also gate overloaded status update for SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] sched/fair: Check CPU capacity before comparing group types during load balance Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] sched/fair: Skip misfit load accounting when the destination CPU cannot help Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-23 7:45 ` Christian Loehle
2026-06-24 5:25 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 0:11 ` Ricardo Neri [this message]
2026-06-26 14:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-27 2:02 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-29 15:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 15:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-06-29 15:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 16:32 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-30 7:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-26 15:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-27 19:07 ` Andrea Righi
2026-06-29 16:22 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] sched/topology: Do not clear SD_PREFER_SIBLING in domains with clusters Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-24 5:14 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 0:19 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 14:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 13:10 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity Andrea Righi
2026-06-29 16:24 ` Ricardo Neri
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