From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 12:00:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261102110026.GG1813469@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <388636ac-4521-4523-bb5b-b6bc71591ff6@linux.ibm.com>
On Mon, Nov 02, 2026 at 11:16:30AM +0100, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
>
>
> On 11/1/26 20:21, Yury Norov wrote:
> > The IBM s390 doesn't enable PARAVIRT config for their hardware
> > virtualized Logical Partitions (LPAR). However, the steal time is
> > accounted for the LPARs, once the config VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE
> > is enabled.
> >
> > Preferred cpumask doesn't rely on any feature gated by PARAVIRT config,
> > and requires it to minimize the configuration space and runtime overhead,
> > with the lack of non-paravirt user. Now that s390 wants to adopt preferred
> > cpumask, there's no reason to keep it coupled to paravirt.
> >
> > Make PREFERRED_CPU a user-configurable option, even if paravirtualization
> > is not enabled, and drop PARAVIRT dependency on the steal governor.
> >
> > Keep the default module selection conditional on PARAVIRT so other SMP
> > configurations can opt in without enabling the governor by default.
> >
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/4605dad5-aab2-49e3-b919-bf9897181834@linux.ibm.com/
> > CC: Mete Durlu <meted@linux.ibm.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
> > ---
> > Can be applied independently from the rest of the series.
> >
> > drivers/virt/Kconfig | 8 ++++++--
> > kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 12 ++++++++++--
> > 2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> This is really useful to us, since even though s390 is nominally
> paravirtualized, it does not technically benefit from defining
> CONFIG_PARAVIRT.
And therefore removing PARAVIRT is the only possible solution?
> Specifically, steal time accounting happens by
> computing a difference between wall time and CPU time, and not by
> explicitly querying the hypervisor.
Nobody explicitly asks the hypervisor, that would be horrendously slow.
Something trivial like this should do.
---
arch/Kconfig | 9 +++++++++
arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig | 1 +
arch/s390/Kconfig | 1 +
drivers/virt/Kconfig | 2 +-
4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
index 1163736de1f9..8980054beb52 100644
--- a/arch/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/Kconfig
@@ -1080,6 +1080,15 @@ config HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
config HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
bool
+#
+# Archs that can account CPUTIME_STEAL; normal route is through PARAVIRT which
+# selects HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN. Directly selected by s390 and PPC-LPAR
+# which have their own thing and don't go through generic cputime accounting.
+#
+config HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
+ bool
+ default y if HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
+
config HAVE_MOVE_PUD
bool
help
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
index 7d125e288f6e..3c49baf606d7 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@ config PPC_SPLPAR
depends on PPC_PSERIES
select PARAVIRT_SPINLOCKS if PPC_QUEUED_SPINLOCKS
select PARAVIRT_TIME_ACCOUNTING if VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN
+ select HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
default y
help
Enabling this option will make the kernel run more efficiently
diff --git a/arch/s390/Kconfig b/arch/s390/Kconfig
index 7138d923d86f..03a884355218 100644
--- a/arch/s390/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/s390/Kconfig
@@ -291,6 +291,7 @@ config S390
select USER_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT
select VDSO_GETRANDOM
select VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING
+ select HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
select VMAP_STACK
select ZONE_DMA
# Note: keep the above list sorted alphabetically
diff --git a/drivers/virt/Kconfig b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
index eeb84e578ddf..a3721d34a55c 100644
--- a/drivers/virt/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ config FSL_HV_MANAGER
config STEAL_GOVERNOR
tristate "Dynamic vCPU management based on steal time"
- depends on PARAVIRT && SMP
+ depends on SMP && HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
select PREFERRED_CPU
default m
help
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-02 11:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-01 19:21 [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt Yury Norov
2026-11-02 10:16 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-11-02 11:34 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 13:00 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-02 13:41 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 14:57 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpumask: Add reset_preferred_cpumask() helper Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: Restore preferred CPUs when hotplug removes the last one Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched: serialize preferred cpumask update better Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] virt: steal_governor: Warn on unexpected preferred mask states Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpu: Add per-CPU preferred sysfs control Yury Norov
2026-11-02 8:47 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Peter Zijlstra
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