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From: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
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	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 12:34:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9273846b-d815-4c40-a7a0-960281515878@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261102110026.GG1813469@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 11/2/26 12:00, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2026 at 11:16:30AM +0100, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/26 20:21, Yury Norov wrote:
>>> The IBM s390 doesn't enable PARAVIRT config for their hardware
>>> virtualized Logical Partitions (LPAR). However, the steal time is
>>> accounted for the LPARs, once the config VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE
>>> is enabled.
>>>
>>> Preferred cpumask doesn't rely on any feature gated by PARAVIRT config,
>>> and requires it to minimize the configuration space and runtime overhead,
>>> with the lack of non-paravirt user. Now that s390 wants to adopt preferred
>>> cpumask, there's no reason to keep it coupled to paravirt.
>>>
>>> Make PREFERRED_CPU a user-configurable option, even if paravirtualization
>>> is not enabled, and drop PARAVIRT dependency on the steal governor.
>>>
>>> Keep the default module selection conditional on PARAVIRT so other SMP
>>> configurations can opt in without enabling the governor by default.
>>>
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/4605dad5-aab2-49e3-b919-bf9897181834@linux.ibm.com/
>>> CC: Mete Durlu <meted@linux.ibm.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
>>> ---
>>> Can be applied independently from the rest of the series.
>>>
>>>    drivers/virt/Kconfig   |  8 ++++++--
>>>    kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 12 ++++++++++--
>>>    2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> This is really useful to us, since even though s390 is nominally
>> paravirtualized, it does not technically benefit from defining
>> CONFIG_PARAVIRT.
> 
> And therefore removing PARAVIRT is the only possible solution?
> 
>> Specifically, steal time accounting happens by
>> computing a difference between wall time and CPU time, and not by
>> explicitly querying the hypervisor.
> 
> Nobody explicitly asks the hypervisor, that would be horrendously slow.
> 
> Something trivial like this should do.
> 
> ---
>   arch/Kconfig                           | 9 +++++++++
>   arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig | 1 +
>   arch/s390/Kconfig                      | 1 +
>   drivers/virt/Kconfig                   | 2 +-
>   4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> index 1163736de1f9..8980054beb52 100644
> --- a/arch/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> @@ -1080,6 +1080,15 @@ config HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
>   config HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
>   	bool
>   
> +#
> +#  Archs that can account CPUTIME_STEAL; normal route is through PARAVIRT which
> +#  selects HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN. Directly selected by s390 and PPC-LPAR
> +#  which have their own thing and don't go through generic cputime accounting.
> +#
> +config HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
> +	bool
> +	default y if HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
> +
>   config HAVE_MOVE_PUD
>   	bool
>   	help
> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
> index 7d125e288f6e..3c49baf606d7 100644
> --- a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
> @@ -41,6 +41,7 @@ config PPC_SPLPAR
>   	depends on PPC_PSERIES
>   	select PARAVIRT_SPINLOCKS if PPC_QUEUED_SPINLOCKS
>   	select PARAVIRT_TIME_ACCOUNTING if VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN
> +	select HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
>   	default y
>   	help
>   	  Enabling this option will make the kernel run more efficiently
> diff --git a/arch/s390/Kconfig b/arch/s390/Kconfig
> index 7138d923d86f..03a884355218 100644
> --- a/arch/s390/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/s390/Kconfig
> @@ -291,6 +291,7 @@ config S390
>   	select USER_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT
>   	select VDSO_GETRANDOM
>   	select VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING
> +	select HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
>   	select VMAP_STACK
>   	select ZONE_DMA
>   	# Note: keep the above list sorted alphabetically
> diff --git a/drivers/virt/Kconfig b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
> index eeb84e578ddf..a3721d34a55c 100644
> --- a/drivers/virt/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
> @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ config FSL_HV_MANAGER
>   
>   config STEAL_GOVERNOR
>   	tristate "Dynamic vCPU management based on steal time"
> -	depends on PARAVIRT && SMP
> +	depends on SMP && HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
>   	select PREFERRED_CPU
>   	default m
>   	help

I can't comment on the PPC part, but for s390 this works fine with the
following addition:

--- a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
+++ b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
@@ -197,4 +197,4 @@ config SCHED_CLASS_EXT

  config PREFERRED_CPU
         bool
-       depends on SMP && PARAVIRT
+       depends on SMP && HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-01 19:21 [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt Yury Norov
2026-11-02 10:16   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 11:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-02 11:34       ` Ilya Leoshkevich [this message]
2026-11-02 13:00         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-02 13:41           ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 14:57             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpumask: Add reset_preferred_cpumask() helper Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: Restore preferred CPUs when hotplug removes the last one Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched: serialize preferred cpumask update better Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] virt: steal_governor: Warn on unexpected preferred mask states Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpu: Add per-CPU preferred sysfs control Yury Norov
2026-11-02  8:47 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Peter Zijlstra

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