From: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mete Durlu <meted@linux.ibm.com>, Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
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Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
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Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 14:41:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <efe1657f-b1c6-4096-8868-fb53097b1847@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66ccd713-5571-4c1a-b59e-29adbc9852e3@linux.ibm.com>
On 11/2/26 14:00, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> On 11/2/26 5:04 PM, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/26 12:00, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 02, 2026 at 11:16:30AM +0100, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/1/26 20:21, Yury Norov wrote:
>>>>> The IBM s390 doesn't enable PARAVIRT config for their hardware
>>>>> virtualized Logical Partitions (LPAR). However, the steal time is
>>>>> accounted for the LPARs, once the config VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE
>>>>> is enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Preferred cpumask doesn't rely on any feature gated by PARAVIRT
>>>>> config,
>>>>> and requires it to minimize the configuration space and runtime
>>>>> overhead,
>>>>> with the lack of non-paravirt user. Now that s390 wants to adopt
>>>>> preferred
>>>>> cpumask, there's no reason to keep it coupled to paravirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make PREFERRED_CPU a user-configurable option, even if
>>>>> paravirtualization
>>>>> is not enabled, and drop PARAVIRT dependency on the steal governor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep the default module selection conditional on PARAVIRT so other SMP
>>>>> configurations can opt in without enabling the governor by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/4605dad5-aab2-49e3-b919-
>>>>> bf9897181834@linux.ibm.com/
>>>>> CC: Mete Durlu <meted@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Can be applied independently from the rest of the series.
>>>>>
>>>>> drivers/virt/Kconfig | 8 ++++++--
>>>>> kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 12 ++++++++++--
>>>>> 2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> This is really useful to us, since even though s390 is nominally
>>>> paravirtualized, it does not technically benefit from defining
>>>> CONFIG_PARAVIRT.
>>>
>>> And therefore removing PARAVIRT is the only possible solution?
>>>
>>>> Specifically, steal time accounting happens by
>>>> computing a difference between wall time and CPU time, and not by
>>>> explicitly querying the hypervisor.
>>>
>>> Nobody explicitly asks the hypervisor, that would be horrendously slow.
>>>
>>> Something trivial like this should do.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> arch/Kconfig | 9 +++++++++
>>> arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig | 1 +
>>> arch/s390/Kconfig | 1 +
>>> drivers/virt/Kconfig | 2 +-
>>> 4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
>>> index 1163736de1f9..8980054beb52 100644
>>> --- a/arch/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
>>> @@ -1080,6 +1080,15 @@ config HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
>>> config HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
>>> bool
>>> +#
>>> +# Archs that can account CPUTIME_STEAL; normal route is through
>>> PARAVIRT which
>>> +# selects HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN. Directly selected by s390 and
>>> PPC-LPAR
>>> +# which have their own thing and don't go through generic cputime
>>> accounting.
>>> +#
>>> +config HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL
>>> + bool
>>> + default y if HAVE_PV_STEAL_CLOCK_GEN
>>> +
>
> Can't PARAVIRT_TIME_ACCOUNTING be the kconfig we can rely upon.
> s390 can add it to the config (similar to HAVE_CPUTIME_STEAL)?
>
> I guess it is selected currently where the steal time reporting happens.
Looking at update_rq_clock_task(), s390 would still need to provide a
pointless dummy paravirt_steal_clock() implementation in this case.
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-02 13:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-01 19:21 [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: decouple PREFERRED_CPU from PARAVIRT in Kconfig.preempt Yury Norov
2026-11-02 10:16 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-02 11:34 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-11-02 13:00 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-02 13:41 ` Ilya Leoshkevich [this message]
2026-11-02 14:57 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpumask: Add reset_preferred_cpumask() helper Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: Restore preferred CPUs when hotplug removes the last one Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched: serialize preferred cpumask update better Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] virt: steal_governor: Warn on unexpected preferred mask states Yury Norov
2026-11-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpu: Add per-CPU preferred sysfs control Yury Norov
2026-11-02 8:47 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched: Expose writable interface for preferred CPUs mask Peter Zijlstra
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