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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Kyle McMartin <jkkm@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/rt: Have RT_PUSH_IPI be default off for non PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 12:03:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61203cdb-af98-47e6-bb70-78af7f0f1cbc@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhqzn914uz.mognet@vschneid-thinkpadt14sgen2i.remote.csb>



On 5/18/26 2:17 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 15/05/26 10:37, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> I got a bit confused here, please correct me if I didn't get this right:
> 
> Per handle_softirqs(), we can't restart the softirq handling loop if
> need_resched() is true (which would be the case here, per what we'd have
> done it push_rt_task(@pull=true)).
> I thought this meant softirqs couldn't be the issue, however this is only
> valid within the scope of a single handle_softirqs() invocation.
> 
> AIUI here we're being hammered by IRQs, thus under this sort of pattern:
> 
> <IRQ>
>    __irq_exit_rcu()
>      invoke_softirq()
>        handle_softirqs()
>          // handle NET_RX_SOFTIRQ
>          // need_resched() is true so don't loop
> </IRQ>
> 

Wouldn't IRQ exit call schedule if need_resched is set? via irqentry_exit_cond_resched ?

> // Barely any progress made here towards actually executing __schedule()
> 
> <IRQ>
>    __irq_exit_rcu()
>      invoke_softirq()
>        handle_softirqs()
>          // handle NET_RX_SOFTIRQ and wake up some tasks
>          // need_resched() is true so don't loop
> </IRQ>
> 
> & repeat ad nauseam. Did I get this right?
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-20  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-15 14:37 Steven Rostedt
2026-05-15 17:17 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-15 18:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-05-15 18:47     ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-15 18:56       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-05-15 22:27         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-18  8:47 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-05-20  6:33   ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-05-20 16:52     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-05-20 17:04       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-05-20 18:09         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-20 19:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-05-20 19:37             ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-21 10:11     ` Valentin Schneider
2026-05-20  8:33 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Steven Rostedt

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