From: Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+git@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
"Rao, Bharata Bhasker" <bharata@amd.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] x86/cpu: Use a new feature flag for 5 level paging
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 23:50:17 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c315a0d-1508-4310-b584-ecaeaba52296@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250515131120.GCaCXn-E8zQutUqKLn@fat_crate.local>
On 5/15/2025 6:41 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 12:42:44PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>
>> Currently, the LA57 CPU feature flag is taken to mean two different
>> things at once:
>> - whether the CPU implements the LA57 extension, and is therefore
>> capable of supporting 5 level paging;
>> - whether 5 level paging is currently in use.
>
> Btw, that gunk:
>
> We had started simplifying the whole 5-level crap:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240621164406.256314-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/
>
> Shivank, I hear the performance issues got resolved in the meantime?
>
> Thx.
>
Hi Boris,
I've re-tested the performance concerns we discussed earlier regarding 5-level paging.
Recent tests on a current kernel don't show any performance issues:
AMD EPYC Zen 5 (SMT enabled).
Linux HEAD 6.15.0-rc6+ 088d13246a46
lmbench/lat_pagefault:
numactl --membind=1 --cpunodebind=1 bin/x86_64-linux-gnu/lat_pagefault -N 100 1GB_randomfile
Output values (50 runs, Mean, 2.5 percentile and 97.5 percentile, in microseconds):
4-level (no5lvl option)
Mean: 0.138876
2.5% 97.5%
0.1384988 0.1392532
4-level (CONFIG_X86_5LEVEL=n)
Mean: 0.137958
2.5% 97.5%
0.1376473 0.1382687
5-level
Mean: 0.138904
2.5% 97.5%
0.1384789 0.1393291
After repeating the experiments a few times, the observed difference(~1%) in mean values
is under noise levels.
I think these results address the performance concerns previously raised[1]. I don't
foresee any issues in proceeding with the 5-level paging implementation
simplification efforts[2].
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/80734605-1926-4ac7-9c63-006fe3ea6b6a@amd.com
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240621164406.256314-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Thanks,
Shivank
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-14 10:42 [PATCH v3 0/7] x86: Robustify pgtable_l5_enabled() Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] x86/cpu: Use a new feature flag for 5 level paging Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 7:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 8:07 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-05-15 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 10:12 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 23:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-16 8:31 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 9:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-15 10:17 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 10:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-15 10:57 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 13:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-15 13:33 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-17 16:59 ` David Laight
2025-05-15 18:20 ` Shivank Garg [this message]
2025-05-15 19:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-16 9:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] x86/cpu: Allow caps to be set arbitrarily early Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 6:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 7:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-05-15 8:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 9:45 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 12:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] x86/asm-offsets: Export struct cpuinfo_x86 layout for asm use Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 7:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-15 7:58 ` [tip: x86/core] x86/asm-offsets: Export certain 'struct cpuinfo_x86' fields for 64-bit asm use too tip-bot2 for Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] x86/boot: Set 5-level paging CPU cap before entering C code Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 8:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-05-15 9:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-15 11:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] x86/boot: Drop the early variant of pgtable_l5_enabled() Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] x86/boot: Drop 5-level paging related variables and early updates Ard Biesheuvel
2025-05-14 10:42 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] x86/cpu: Make CPU capability overrides __ro_after_init Ard Biesheuvel
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