From: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
To: Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>
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Stuart Clark <stuclar@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 15:48:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874idmrtq8.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avWo1bY5MSN1XvHL@boxer>
Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com> writes:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 11:20:26AM +0100, Björn Töpel wrote:
>> A page_pool driver should not need its own AF_XDP setup. When it sets
>> netdev_queue_mgmt_ops.xsk_page_pool, a zero-copy bind installs the
>> UMEM provider through the queue API, as devmem and io_uring do. The
>> driver only judges the chunk size, headroom and multi-buffer mode
>> against its MTU and XDP program, in XDP_VALIDATE_XSK_POOL; MTU and
>> program changes of a bound device get the same check. The UMEM
>> headroom belongs to the socket, so the queue gets it as rx_headroom,
>> next to rx_page_size.
>>
>> After a queue restart, the core checks that the new page pools took
>> the provider. A readable provider must back the header pool, where an
>> unsplit packet lands, so pools declare the buffers they supply in
>> rx_roles. The old queue's pools carry the same provider during the
>> check, so a per-queue generation, mp_gen, tells the new ones apart.
>>
>> Generic XDP runs outside the queue NAPI, so it cannot feed the socket.
>>
>> The provider needs no xdp_buff_xsk per chunk. The buffer pool
>> allocates them only for copy mode and driver zero copy, which saves
>> 128 bytes per chunk.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Björn Töpel <bjorn@kernel.org>
>> ---
>> include/linux/netdevice.h | 8 ++
>> include/net/netdev_queues.h | 12 ++
>> include/net/netdev_rx_queue.h | 2 +
>> include/net/page_pool/types.h | 12 ++
>> include/net/xdp_sock.h | 4 +
>> include/net/xdp_sock_drv.h | 45 +++++++
>> include/net/xsk_buff_pool.h | 3 +
>> net/core/dev.c | 16 +++
>> net/core/netdev_config.c | 2 +
>> net/core/netdev_rx_queue.c | 9 +-
>> net/core/page_pool.c | 6 +-
>> net/core/page_pool_user.c | 25 ++--
>> net/xdp/xsk.h | 7 +-
>> net/xdp/xsk_buff_pool.c | 69 ++++++++---
>> net/xdp/xsk_pp.c | 221 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 15 files changed, 410 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
>>
>
> (...)
>
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * xsk_validate_dev - check AF_XDP page pool queues against a new setting
>> + * @dev: device of the queues
>> + * @mtu: MTU to check
>> + * @prog: XDP program to check, or NULL for the current one
>> + * @mode: XDP mode of @prog
>> + * @extack: netlink extended ack
>> + *
>> + * Context: holds the instance lock of @dev, or RTNL for a device without it.
>> + * Return: 0 if the driver accepts all queues of @dev that have an AF_XDP
>> + * memory provider, or its error.
>> + */
>> +int xsk_validate_dev(struct net_device *dev, unsigned int mtu,
>> + struct bpf_prog *prog, enum bpf_xdp_mode mode,
>> + struct netlink_ext_ack *extack)
>> +{
>> + struct netdev_rx_queue *rxq;
>> + struct xsk_pp *pp;
>> + unsigned int i;
>> + int err;
>> +
>> + netdev_assert_locked_ops_compat(dev);
>> +
>> + for (i = 0; i < dev->real_num_rx_queues; i++) {
>> + rxq = __netif_get_rx_queue(dev, i);
>> + if (rxq->mp_params.mp_ops != &xsk_pp_ops)
>> + continue;
>> +
>> + /* Generic XDP runs outside the queue NAPI */
>> + if (mode == XDP_MODE_SKB) {
>> + NL_SET_ERR_MSG(extack,
>> + "generic XDP cannot feed an AF_XDP page pool socket");
>> + return -EBUSY;
>> + }
>> +
>> + pp = rxq->mp_params.mp_priv;
>> + err = xsk_pp_validate(dev, pp->pool, mtu, prog, extack);
>> + if (err)
>> + return err;
>> + }
>> +
>> + return 0;
>> +}
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xsk_validate_dev);
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * xsk_rxq_pool - get the AF_XDP pool that provides memory to an RX queue
>> + * @dev: device of the queue
>> + * @queue_id: RX queue
>> + *
>> + * The pool stays valid while the queue that the caller allocates runs.
>> + *
>> + * Context: holds the instance lock of @dev.
>> + * Return: the buffer pool, or NULL.
>> + */
>> +struct xsk_buff_pool *xsk_rxq_pool(struct net_device *dev, u16 queue_id)
>> +{
>> + struct netdev_rx_queue *rxq;
>> + struct xsk_pp *pp;
>> +
>> + netdev_assert_locked(dev);
>> +
>> + if (queue_id >= dev->real_num_rx_queues)
>> + return NULL;
>> +
>> + rxq = __netif_get_rx_queue(dev, queue_id);
>> + if (rxq->mp_params.mp_ops != &xsk_pp_ops)
>> + return NULL;
>> +
>> + pp = rxq->mp_params.mp_priv;
>> + return pp->pool;
>> +}
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xsk_rxq_pool);
>> +
>> +bool xsk_pp_supported(struct net_device *dev)
>> +{
>> + const struct netdev_queue_mgmt_ops *qops = dev->queue_mgmt_ops;
>> +
>> + return qops && qops->xsk_page_pool;
>> +}
>> +
>> +/* Called with RTNL and the instance lock of @dev. On error, @pool->pp stays
>> + * set if an old page pool still owns chunks; copy mode must not take the pool.
>> + */
>> +int xsk_pp_bind(struct xsk_buff_pool *pool, struct net_device *dev,
>> + u16 queue_id)
>> +{
>> + struct pp_memory_provider_params mp = { .mp_ops = &xsk_pp_ops };
>> + struct device *dma_dev;
>> + struct xsk_pp *pp;
>> + int err;
>> +
>> + if (queue_id >= dev->real_num_rx_queues || pool->unaligned)
>> + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> + if ((dev->xdp_features & NETDEV_XDP_ACT_XSK) != NETDEV_XDP_ACT_XSK ||
>> + (xsk_pool_uses_sg(pool) && dev->xdp_zc_max_segs == 1))
>> + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>
> that is checked elsewhere, in xp_assign_dev() I assume.
Ah, yes! I'll do the common checks first in xp_assign_dev(), and branch
after.
> Why there are skb mode checks?
(Note to self: I need to make some details/designs more obvious in the
cover!)
Because the provider is turned on by the queue API at bind, not by an
XDP program. This is a big difference. Once the socket is bound, the
queue's page pool hands the device chunks from FILL, whatever program is
attached: native, generic or none. A generic redirect would copy into a
chunk taken from FILL behind the provider's back, and a provider pool
doesn't have the heads that copy path needs. So 07 drops those
redirects.
The checks make that visible (I hope): with a generic program attached,
bind falls back to copy mode, where generic XDP works, and attaching one
to a provider queue fails instead of dropping everything.
Driver ZC is different: ice and i40e use the pool only while a native
program is attached, so with a generic one the queue runs on normal
buffers, and the copy is the only FILL user.
> You sort of introduce totally separate control path and rx data path. It
> is hard for me to buy onto the management burden of all this new code :(
>
> I believe we should break this up onto smaller chunks and don't try to
> solve everything within a single set...or wil that not be possible?
Separate from driver ZC, yes, but not new: the provider binds the way
devmem and io_uring zcrx do, netif_mp_open_rxq() and a queue restart,
and the driver keeps its normal page pool RX path, with no ZC RX loop of
its own. The cost moves into the AF_XDP core, and xsk_pp.c is real code,
I know.
It can be split:
1. preparation, no new behaviour: netmem frag addresses, the page pool
caps, fbnic's redirect and netmem patches, the TX metadata fix;
2. the provider for single-buffer packets, with fbnic, without the copy
fallback or fbnic's shared header/payload pool;
3. multi-buffer.
Not sure it would help much TBH.
The provider, its bind and the delivery need a driver to land, so 2 is
the smallest set that does something. v2 also loses some things (but I'd
like to keep the validate ndo_bpf), e.g. nr_pools and the duplicate
checks. And I'm happy to look after xsk_pp.c. Would that work for you?
>> + if (dev_xdp_prog_id(dev, XDP_MODE_SKB))
>> + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> + if (!netif_all_mps_have_cap(dev, MP_CAP_READABLE))
>> + return -EBUSY;
>> +
>> + err = xsk_pp_validate(dev, pool, dev->mtu, NULL, NULL);
>> + if (err)
>> + return err;
>> +
>> + dma_dev = netdev_queue_get_dma_dev(dev, queue_id, NETDEV_QUEUE_TYPE_RX);
>> + if (!dma_dev)
>> + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> +
>> + err = xp_dma_map(pool, dma_dev, XSK_PP_DMA_ATTR, pool->umem->pgs,
>> + pool->umem->npgs);
>> + if (err)
>> + return err;
>
> Couldn't we have this part common across drivers wanting to do ZC?
It is: this is core code, and no provider driver maps UMEM itself;
netdev_queue_get_dma_dev() gives the core the device, as for io_uring
zcrx. Driver ZC could map in xp_assign_dev() too, but drivers differ in
DMA device and attributes, so that's its own series.
Björn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-12 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-10 10:20 [PATCH net-next v1 00/11] xsk: Zero copy through page-pool memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/11] net: Get skb fragment addresses through netmem Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 8:32 ` saeed bishara
2026-11-12 13:57 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:19 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 12:41 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:01 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:01 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:32 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:27 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:05 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/11] xsk: Allocate UMEM chunks through page_pool Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 15:08 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 13:51 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:02 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:59 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:09 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:50 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 14:01 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 8:59 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 19:26 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 8:08 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:53 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 14:48 ` Björn Töpel [this message]
2026-11-12 15:43 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/11] page_pool: Coordinate refill with memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:51 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 19:37 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:13 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:53 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/11] xsk: Deliver provider chunks without copying Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-11 23:20 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 15:10 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 12:17 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/11] eth: fbnic: Support XDP redirect Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/11] eth: fbnic: Use netmem for RX headers and XDP_TX Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/11] eth: fbnic: Support RX buffers it cannot split Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 21:45 ` Dimitri Daskalakis
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/11] eth: fbnic: Support AF_XDP page pool zero copy Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:37 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
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