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From: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
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	Stuart Clark <stuclar@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 15:01:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cxsarvwd.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avTy21_cSnyMdbb5@devvm16445.scu0.facebook.com>

Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> writes:

> On 11/11, Björn Töpel wrote:
>> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
>> > On 11/10, Björn Töpel wrote:

>> >> +	if (static_branch_unlikely(&page_pool_mem_providers) &&
>> >> +	    WARN_ON_ONCE(!page_pool_supports_frag(pool)))
>> >> +		return 0;
>> >>  	if (WARN_ON(size > max_size))
>> >>  		return 0;
>> >>  
>> >
>> > What's the deal with that? How do we get here?
>> 
>> Hey! Thanks for taking a look at the series!
>> 
>> An explicit frag call on a whole-buffer provider is a driver bug: UMEM
>> chunks can be smaller than a page, and RX gives the whole chunk to
>> userspace.
>> 
>> But page_pool_alloc_netmem() also picks frags for small requests, so a
>> valid call can warn.
>> 
>> I think it would be better to make it return a whole buffer and its
>> actual size. The WARN stays in the frag API, before taking a new buffer?
>> Wdyt?
>
> I see.. Idk, I'd still return 0 here, but without a warn. Not sure
> we want a warn for any api misuse? Returning no netmem is gonna be enough
> to debug things? As for the calls from page_pool_alloc_netmem, I'd also
> handle it explicitly? if (size > max_size || !page_pool_supports_frag) ?
> But no strong preference, up to you, was mostly trying to understand
> what we are warning against here :-)

Yes, page_pool_alloc_netmem() gets the explicit check. Thanks!

For the frag API I'd keep a WARN_ON_ONCE, like the size check right
below it. A silent 0 looks like an empty provider: the queue just
stalls, and nothing points at the driver. With the helper fixed, only an
explicit frag call on such a pool gets there... Wdyt? I'll probably take
that route for v2.


Björn

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-10 10:20 [PATCH net-next v1 00/11] xsk: Zero copy through page-pool memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/11] net: Get skb fragment addresses through netmem Björn Töpel
2026-11-12  8:32   ` saeed bishara
2026-11-12 13:57     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:19   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 12:41     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:01       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:01         ` Björn Töpel [this message]
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:32   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:27     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:05       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/11] xsk: Allocate UMEM chunks through page_pool Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 15:08   ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 13:51     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:02   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:59     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:09       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:50   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 14:01     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11  8:59   ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 19:26     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12  8:08       ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:53   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 14:48     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 15:43       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/11] page_pool: Coordinate refill with memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:51   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 19:37     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:13       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:53         ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/11] xsk: Deliver provider chunks without copying Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-11 23:20   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 15:10     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 12:17   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/11] eth: fbnic: Support XDP redirect Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/11] eth: fbnic: Use netmem for RX headers and XDP_TX Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/11] eth: fbnic: Support RX buffers it cannot split Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 21:45   ` Dimitri Daskalakis
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/11] eth: fbnic: Support AF_XDP page pool zero copy Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:37   ` Maciej Fijalkowski

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