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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: "Kairui Song" <ryncsn@gmail.com>, "Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	"Baoquan He" <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Kemeng Shi" <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	"Barry Song" <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"YoungJun Park" <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
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	"Axel Rasmussen" <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
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	"Gregory Price" <gourry@gourry.net>,
	"Wenchao Hao" <haowenchao22@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Kunwu Chan" <kunwu.chan@linux.dev>,
	"Meta kernel team" <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	"Linux Memory Management List" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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	"open list:CONTROL GROUP - MEMORY RESOURCE CONTROLLER (MEMCG)"
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Joshua Hahn" <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2026 20:58:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9499bc084e30df4d10bc069ed26d576e4dd3de80.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACePvbV0Z3OhxkEn-MiMrxpSmtbt1YwCt2N2_ZW3jbdh87jgFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 2026-09-26 at 11:27 -1000, Chris Li wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 5:41 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > (2) The use case we have. Use memory.swap.max to divide a finite
> > space
> > in storage. We only have so much space on disk, and we need to
> > manage
> > fair access. Note that this isn't about speed. We have a mix of
> > containers where some use writeback and others do not. The ones who
> > write back to the swapfile need to be able to get their fair share
> > -
> > not more, not less. Including something that doesn't actually
> > consume
> 
> Just want to make sure I understand correctly. Do you mean the fair
> share of compressed memory used in the zswap case?
> 
Compressed zswap memory is already accounted for
under cgroup.memory.max.

Compressed zswap memory sits under memory.max
together with anonymous, file, and slab cache
memory.

We do not need or want another limit there, 
though I understand other people do.

The fair resource use from memory.swap.max
is to control how much of the fixed swap file
(or swap partition) space each cgroup gets.

-- 
All Rights Reversed.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-27  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-04 21:14 Nhat Pham
2026-09-07  5:51 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-08 16:36   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 16:09     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:57       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 18:14         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 19:03           ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  8:47             ` Kairui Song
2026-09-14 16:49               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-08 18:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-09 16:41     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-09 17:47       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  9:00       ` Kairui Song
2026-09-12 11:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  7:23           ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:06             ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:18               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21  0:35                 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:53                   ` Chris Li
2026-09-14 16:10         ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 23:27   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-07 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-08 16:45   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 10:56     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 16:22       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 17:57         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-11 16:20         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:56           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-14 15:00           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:50             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:55               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 13:38                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:43                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-22 14:56                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:07                       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:30                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:45                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23  6:44                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:46                           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:28                       ` Baoquan He
2026-09-25 18:47                         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-10  7:09 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-10 16:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-11 13:06     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:45       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-15  5:48         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-15  6:44           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:55             ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:15               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-19 21:21                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 22:50                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:13                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:54                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:44                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 16:30                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 11:27                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 13:15                               ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 13:15                           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 15:41                             ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 19:21                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 20:20                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-26 21:27                               ` Chris Li
2026-09-27  0:58                                 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2026-09-27  6:23                                   ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 12:29                                     ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-25 16:11                             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 20:44                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 21:30                                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 21:53                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 16:54                             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-25 20:26                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 19:36                             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 20:20                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-19  7:07           ` Chris Li
2026-09-10 17:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-11 12:27     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:21       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  8:45     ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:08       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-19 19:02         ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:14           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-20  1:53           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21  9:43             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 12:53               ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:11                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:14                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:21                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:20                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:31                     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  7:32                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 13:55                         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-21 14:06               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:15                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 15:16               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:31                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 16:36                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 18:10                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:52                       ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 13:32                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:59                           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 15:23                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:43                               ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  6:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:48                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:00                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:21                                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:32                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:37                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:11                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 15:39                                   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 15:20                           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-22 15:43                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:52                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 12:52                                   ` Klara Modin
2026-09-23 15:43                                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 17:26                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  5:51                                     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-24  7:20                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  7:53                                         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-21 10:01           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 13:27             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 15:27               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 15:48                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:32               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 17:02                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23  9:39                   ` Baoquan He
2026-09-23 12:11                     ` Gregory Price
2026-09-24 11:02                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 14:18                       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23 14:34               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 18:11             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 17:16           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-10 17:16   ` Nhat Pham

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