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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Kairui Song" <ryncsn@gmail.com>, "Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	"Baoquan He" <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
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	"Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
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Subject: Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2026 08:29:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b792823cce613ce756227a3b60cc245b0316a800.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACePvbWdJSUDuEbR2FXczbeWwvxP86WDGHTL-eO0A8WwMDoNRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 2026-09-26 at 20:23 -1000, Chris Li wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2026 at 2:59 PM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > The fair resource use from memory.swap.max
> > is to control how much of the fixed swap file
> > (or swap partition) space each cgroup gets.
> 
> That is the part I am not sure I understand correctly. Fair in what
> sense? Using the swap file proportional to the memory limit of the
> cgroup? Do you have an example of perfectly fair swap file usage for
> a
> cgroup with an 8G memory limit versus one with a 1G limit?
> 
> Sorry I am a bit slow grasping what exactly the fair behavior is.

Say we have a 64GB swap file, and several
cgroups on the system, applications A & B,
and system.slice.

We might give system.slice a 10GB memory.swap.max, 
and each application a 25GB memory.swap.max.

This way a memory leak in application B
does not result in application A being
unable to run.

The thing that leaks (if anything) ends up 
getting killed, not the innocent bystander. 

-- 
All Rights Reversed.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-27 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-04 21:14 Nhat Pham
2026-09-07  5:51 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-08 16:36   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 16:09     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:57       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 18:14         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 19:03           ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  8:47             ` Kairui Song
2026-09-14 16:49               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-08 18:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-09 16:41     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-09 17:47       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12  9:00       ` Kairui Song
2026-09-12 11:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  7:23           ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:06             ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:18               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21  0:35                 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:53                   ` Chris Li
2026-09-14 16:10         ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 23:27   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-07 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-08 16:45   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 10:56     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 16:22       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 17:57         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-11 16:20         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:56           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-14 15:00           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:50             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:55               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 13:38                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:43                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-22 14:56                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:07                       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:30                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:45                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23  6:44                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:46                           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:28                       ` Baoquan He
2026-09-25 18:47                         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-10  7:09 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-10 16:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-11 13:06     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:45       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-15  5:48         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-15  6:44           ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19  6:55             ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:15               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-19 21:21                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 22:50                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21  0:13                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:54                       ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:44                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 16:30                           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 11:27                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 13:15                               ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 13:15                           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 15:41                             ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 19:21                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 20:20                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-26 21:27                               ` Chris Li
2026-09-27  0:58                                 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-27  6:23                                   ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 12:29                                     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2026-09-25 16:11                             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 20:44                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 21:30                                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 21:53                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 16:54                             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-25 20:26                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 19:36                             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 20:20                               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-19  7:07           ` Chris Li
2026-09-10 17:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-11 12:27     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:21       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19  8:45     ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:08       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-19 19:02         ` Chris Li
2026-09-20  1:14           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-20  1:53           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21  9:43             ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 12:53               ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:11                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:14                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:21                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:20                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:31                     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  7:32                       ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 13:55                         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-21 14:06               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:15                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 15:16               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:31                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 16:36                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 18:10                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:52                       ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 13:32                         ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:59                           ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 15:23                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:43                               ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23  6:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:48                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:00                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:21                                   ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:32                               ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23  7:37                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:11                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 15:39                                   ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 15:20                           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-22 15:43                             ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:52                               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23  7:10                                 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 12:52                                   ` Klara Modin
2026-09-23 15:43                                     ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 17:26                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  5:51                                     ` Baoquan He
2026-09-24  7:20                                       ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24  7:53                                         ` Baoquan He
2026-09-21 10:01           ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 13:27             ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 15:27               ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 15:48                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:32               ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 17:02                 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23  9:39                   ` Baoquan He
2026-09-23 12:11                     ` Gregory Price
2026-09-24 11:02                     ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 14:18                       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23 14:34               ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 18:11             ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 17:16           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-10 17:16   ` Nhat Pham

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