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From: John Madieu <john.madieu.xa@bp.renesas.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: "conor+dt@kernel.org" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"geert+renesas@glider.be" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
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	Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
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	<niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 3/5] thermal: renesas: rzg3e: Add thermal driver for the Renesas RZ/G3E SoC
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 17:44:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OSCPR01MB14647EF08573B0D26175426CEFF2AA@OSCPR01MB14647.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e496737-3cec-425e-a4a1-29b576f8eade@linaro.org>

Hi Daniel,

Thanks again for the feedback.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2025 12:06 PM
> To: John Madieu <john.madieu.xa@bp.renesas.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/5] thermal: renesas: rzg3e: Add thermal driver for
> the Renesas RZ/G3E SoC
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> 
> On 05/08/2025 09:49, John Madieu wrote:
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> >>> I might not get what you are asking, but since I compute the
> >>> temperature in the hard IRQ handler, I just wait for it to complete
> >>> and notify the completion so I can grab the processed value to
> >>> notify the thermal core.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if this does not answer your question.
> >>
> >> Can you describe how the sensor works ? And perhaps if you have a
> >> pointer to some documentation ?
> >
> > Here is the documentation [1]. The thermal device is referred to as TSU.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://www.renesas.com/en/document/mah/rzg3e-group-users-manual-hardw
> > are?r=25574493
> >
> >>    [ ... ]
> 
> Thanks for the pointer. I got it now ;)
> 
> I'm a bit worried about the latency introduced by this mechanism when the
> system is entering in a thermal pressure episode.
> 
> The get_temp function wait for a completion up to 100ms, it is a lot.
> Especially if the userspace can be reading the temperature and blocking the
> read.
> 
> There is also the spin_lock taken introducing another lock while the
> get_temp function is holding a mutex on the thermal zone.
> 
> Did you it that under stress ?
> 

After spending some time stressing the driver, I've noticed a
couple of issues:

 * Spinlock/mutex mux caused some issues, and I had cases where
   it timed-out while not even under stress.
 
 * Mixing both compare (cmp) and conversion complete (conv) IRQs
 introduced some latencies and inconsistencies.

After spending some time in the datasheet, I could notice that one
conversion takes around 50µs. In average mode (8 samples per conversion),
it would take 400µs, which I doubled (for margin) and used as timeout in
v7 series that is already ready. 

Moreover, as per datasheet recommendations, I kept comparison IRQ 
(for trip point violation) only, while using polling for get_temp()
(with the 800µs timeout), which gives better results.


If you don't mind, I'll send a v7 which addresses all the
requests from Geert as well as the above-mentioned changes.

It includes:

 * 800µs timeout for get_temp() in polling read
 * No spinlock/mutex mix and no completion anymore
 * Comparison-only IRQ for trip point violations
 * + Geert's change requests

What do you think ?

Regards,
John.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-13 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-22 18:22 [PATCH v6 0/5] thermal: renesas: Add support for RZ/G3E John Madieu
2025-05-22 18:22 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] soc: renesas: rz-sysc: Add syscon/regmap support John Madieu
2025-08-04  9:19   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-05 12:38     ` John Madieu
2025-05-22 18:22 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] dt-bindings: thermal: r9a09g047-tsu: Document the TSU unit John Madieu
2025-05-22 18:22 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] thermal: renesas: rzg3e: Add thermal driver for the Renesas RZ/G3E SoC John Madieu
2025-06-06  6:17   ` Biju Das
2025-06-11 10:54     ` John Madieu
2025-07-16 21:11   ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-07-31 17:19     ` John Madieu
2025-08-04 16:08       ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-08-05  7:49         ` John Madieu
2025-08-05 10:05           ` Daniel Lezcano
2025-08-13 17:44             ` John Madieu [this message]
2025-08-04  9:28   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-05  8:27     ` John Madieu
2025-08-05  8:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-05  9:22         ` John Madieu
2025-08-05  9:35           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-05  9:52             ` John Madieu
2025-05-22 18:22 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] arm64: dts: renesas: r9a09g047: Add TSU node John Madieu
2025-05-22 18:22 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] arm64: defconfig: Enable the Renesas RZ/G3E thermal driver John Madieu

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