From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 21:50:12 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2549a83-6acf-472c-9fd7-69e965707d12@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR11MB4835C4C6DA79A84D0F123AD88C712@CO1PR11MB4835.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 12/11/26 10:05, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2026 11:00 PM
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2026 at 09:44:42AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> The interesting case is about such failures after attest e.g. unlock
>>> which is supposed to be a void operation. Maybe we don't need do
>>> anything special in tsm core - the secure firmware maintains the
>>> state machine so future lock will fail if the current state is not
>>> unlocked.
>>
>> unlock can't fail, we have no way to cope with that.
>>
>> If unlock does not result in the MMMIO returned to host control then
>> the system will surely MCE.
>>
>> This should have nothing to do with a crashed device, the disposition
>> of the MMIO is under TDX module control, revert it back to host and
>> accept you get AERs for the incorrect T= bit if the device isn't syncd.
>>
>> The OS would have to kill the SPDM session and FLR the PF to bring it
>> all back.
>>
>
> Agree but we were talking about different scenarios. Your description
> is about real device hang, while mine is about unlock failure from
> guest p.o.v. which can be caused by either hardware issue or host
> software issues. Or a malicious host may report success w/o actually
> doing anything.
>
> My point was that the guest can just assume unlock always succeed
> and rely on the secure firmware to ensure future operations blocked
> in case of incomplete unlock. We don't need to do anything special
> within the guest tsm core upon GHCI unlock errors.
If the guest asked for unlock() and the secure fw failed to do so and reported an error (which my hosts cannot hide), then the guest memory is still exposed (via DMA) to some unwanted thing. If anything - it is time to panic() imho. Thanks,
--
Alexey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-12 10:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-24 4:10 [RFC PATCH 00/15] PCI/TSM: coco/tdx-guest: Implement TDX-Connect PCIe TDISP (phase2) Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] x86/tdx: Export tdg_vm_rd() for tdx-guest module Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-30 22:13 ` Peter Fang
2026-10-01 12:38 ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-08 6:45 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:34 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:19 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:27 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 7:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 0:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 3:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-27 5:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 6:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:15 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 7:34 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.RD module call " Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-25 0:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 0:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 6:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 13:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 21:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 10:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support devsec TSM for secure devices Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-15 13:42 ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-16 6:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 1:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 7:20 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:31 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 1:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26 7:13 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-28 5:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28 6:51 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 12:52 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-15 6:24 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 2:06 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 8:32 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:27 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 12:10 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 3:06 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:32 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 7:33 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-04 8:20 ` Xu Yilun
2026-11-04 9:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-17 18:38 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-19 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 2:32 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 8:58 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 7:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 3:26 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 8:49 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 21:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 8:59 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-04 14:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-05 4:37 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-05 19:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-06 3:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-09 23:38 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-10 9:40 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-10 18:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-10 19:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10 22:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-11 0:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11 0:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-11 9:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-11-11 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11 23:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-11-12 10:50 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2026-11-11 8:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-26 2:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 10:14 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 6:02 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] PCI/TSM: Track Device Interface Report MMIO range index Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 9:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.MMIO.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 23:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-25 0:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:01 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 5:49 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:44 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 7:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virt: tdx-guest: Capture the TDI report during device lock Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 5:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 3:23 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 0:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 0:48 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 1:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 21:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 8:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virt: tdx-guest: Set up and accept private MMIO ranges Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 5:22 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 3:32 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:44 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 9:56 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 22:38 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.START module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support Trust Device Interface (TDI) activation Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:19 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 6:44 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29 2:24 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] x86/tdx: Add __tdcall_saved() helper Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.DMAR.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 5:57 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] virt: tdx-guest: Accept default DMAR entry during PCI driver attach Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26 12:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 9:39 ` Xu Yilun
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