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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 mlevitsk@redhat.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	weijiang.yang@intel.com,  Mathias Krause <minipli@grsecurity.net>,
	John Allen <john.allen@amd.com>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 17/24] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 11:45:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKTGVvOb8PZ7mzVr@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77edb8d9-4093-49fe-963c-56da76514d4c@zytor.com>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, Xin Li wrote:
> On 8/19/2025 9:11 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025, Chao Gao wrote:
> > > From: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > Enable/disable CET MSRs interception per associated feature configuration.
> > > 
> > > Shadow Stack feature requires all CET MSRs passed through to guest to make
> > > it supported in user and supervisor mode
> > 
> > I doubt that SS _requires_ CET MSRs to be passed through.  IIRC, the actual
> > reason for passing through most of the MSRs is that they are managed via XSAVE,
> > i.e. _can't_ be intercepted without also intercepting XRSTOR.
> > 
> > > while IBT feature only depends on
> > > MSR_IA32_{U,S}_CETS_CET to enable user and supervisor IBT.
> > > 
> > > Note, this MSR design introduced an architectural limitation of SHSTK and
> > > IBT control for guest, i.e., when SHSTK is exposed, IBT is also available
> > > to guest from architectural perspective since IBT relies on subset of SHSTK
> > > relevant MSRs.
> > > 
> > > Suggested-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
> > > Tested-by: Mathias Krause <minipli@grsecurity.net>
> > > Tested-by: John Allen <john.allen@amd.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > >   arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > index bd572c8c7bc3..130ffbe7dc1a 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > @@ -4088,6 +4088,8 @@ void pt_update_intercept_for_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   void vmx_recalc_msr_intercepts(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   {
> > > +	bool set;
> > 
> > s/set/intercept
> > 
> 
> Maybe because you asked me to change "flag" to "set" when reviewing FRED
> patches, however "intercept" does sound better, and I just changed it :)

Ah crud.  I had a feeling I was flip-flopping.  I obviously don't have a strong
preference.

> > > +
> > >   	if (!cpu_has_vmx_msr_bitmap())
> > >   		return;
> > > @@ -4133,6 +4135,24 @@ void vmx_recalc_msr_intercepts(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_FLUSH_CMD, MSR_TYPE_W,
> > >   					  !guest_cpu_cap_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_FLUSH_L1D));
> > > +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK)) {
> > > +		set = !guest_cpu_cap_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK);
> > > +
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL1_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL2_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > 
> > MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB isn't managed via XSAVE, so why is it being passed through?
> 
> It's managed in VMCS host and guest areas, i.e. HOST_INTR_SSP_TABLE and
> GUEST_INTR_SSP_TABLE, if the "load CET" bits are set in both VM entry
> and exit controls.

Ah, "because it's essentially free".  Unless there's a true need to pass it through,
I think it makes sense to intercept.  Merging KVM's bitmap with vmcs12's bitmap
isn't completely free (though it's quite cheap).  More importantly, this is technically
wrong due to MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB not existing if the vCPU doesn't have LM.  That's
obviously easy to solve, I just don't see the point.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-19 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-12  2:55 [PATCH v12 00/24] Enable CET Virtualization Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 01/24] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_{g,s}et_msr()* to show that they emulate guest accesses Chao Gao
2025-09-01  7:07   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-02 14:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 02/24] KVM: x86: Use double-underscore read/write MSR helpers as appropriate Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 03/24] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 04/24] KVM: x86: Manually clear MPX state only on INIT Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 05/24] KVM: x86: Zero XSTATE components on INIT by iterating over supported features Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 06/24] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_{G,S}ET_ONE_REG uAPIs support Chao Gao
2025-08-19 17:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-20  8:28     ` Chao Gao
2025-08-21 13:20       ` Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 07/24] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 08/24] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 09/24] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 10/24] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 11/24] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 12/24] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 13/24] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 14/24] KVM: x86: Enable guest SSP read/write interface with new uAPIs Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 15/24] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Chao Gao
2025-08-19 16:09   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-19 17:19     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-19 17:50       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-19 17:53     ` Xin Li
2025-08-19 18:35       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-20  2:32     ` Chao Gao
2025-08-20 14:12       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 16/24] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 17/24] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Chao Gao
2025-08-19 16:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-19 18:05     ` Xin Li
2025-08-19 18:45       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-08-20  2:10         ` Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 18/24] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Chao Gao
2025-08-18  7:57   ` Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 19/24] KVM: x86: Don't emulate instructions guarded by CET Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 20/24] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Chao Gao
2025-08-19 18:49   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 21/24] KVM: nVMX: Virtualize NO_HW_ERROR_CODE_CC for L1 event injection to L2 Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 22/24] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Chao Gao
2025-08-15 14:24   ` Chao Gao
2025-08-19 17:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 23/24] KVM: nVMX: Add consistency checks for CR0.WP and CR4.CET Chao Gao
2025-08-19 17:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-20  7:29     ` Chao Gao
2025-08-12  2:55 ` [PATCH v12 24/24] KVM: nVMX: Add consistency checks for CET states Chao Gao
2025-08-15 22:57 ` [PATCH v12 00/24] Enable CET Virtualization Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-18  7:53   ` Chao Gao
2025-08-18 22:25 ` Xin Li
2025-08-19 23:11 ` Sean Christopherson

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