From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David.Kaplan@amd.com, Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/srso: Explain the untraining sequences a bit more
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 18:41:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acd17a36-ea03-3db7-5333-d920bc65cb8a@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230815142600.GEZNuK+NyJdReK466b@fat_crate.local>
On 15.08.23 г. 17:26 ч., Borislav Petkov wrote:
> From: "Borislav Petkov (AMD)" <bp@alien8.de>
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 21:29:50 +0200
>
> The goal is to eventually have a proper documentation about all this.
>
> Signed-off-by: Borislav Petkov (AMD) <bp@alien8.de>
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S b/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
> index 915c4fe17718..e59c46581bbb 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
> +++ b/arch/x86/lib/retpoline.S
> @@ -183,6 +183,25 @@ SYM_CODE_START(srso_alias_return_thunk)
> ud2
> SYM_CODE_END(srso_alias_return_thunk)
>
> +/*
> + * Some generic notes on the untraining sequences:
> + *
> + * They are interchangeable when it comes to flushing potentially wrong
> + * RET predictions from the BTB.
> + *
> + * The SRSO Zen1/2 (MOVABS) untraining sequence is longer than the
> + * Retbleed sequence because the return sequence done there
> + * (srso_safe_ret()) is longer and the return sequence must fully nest
> + * (end before) the untraining sequence. Therefore, the untraining
> + * sequence must fully overlap the return sequence.
> + *
> + * Regarding alignment - the instructions which need to be untrained,
> + * must all start at a cacheline boundary for Zen1/2 generations. That
> + * is, instruction sequences starting at srso_safe_ret() and
> + * the respective instruction sequences at retbleed_return_thunk()
> + * must start at a cacheline boundary.
> + */
Are there any salient generic details about zen 3/4 ?
> +
> /*
> * Safety details here pertain to the AMD Zen{1,2} microarchitecture:
> * 1) The RET at retbleed_return_thunk must be on a 64 byte boundary, for
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-15 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-14 11:44 [PATCH v2 00/11] Fix up SRSO stuff Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] x86/cpu: Fixup __x86_return_thunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/cpu: Fix __x86_return_thunk symbol type tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/cpu: Fix up srso_safe_ret() and __x86_return_thunk() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] objtool/x86: Fix SRSO mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 12:54 ` Andrew.Cooper3
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 20:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-16 22:08 ` [PATCH] objtool/x86: Fixup frame-pointer vs rethunk Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 22:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-17 8:39 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] x86/alternative: Make custom return thunk unconditional Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] x86/cpu: Clean up SRSO return thunk mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 13:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 17:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15 21:29 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-08-15 22:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 14:52 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-08-16 15:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 18:58 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-08-16 19:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 19:30 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-08-16 19:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 19:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 21:20 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] x86/cpu: Rename original retbleed methods Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 19:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 21:20 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] x86/cpu: Rename srso_(.*)_alias to srso_alias_\1 Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 21:20 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] x86/cpu: Cleanup the untrain mess Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 21:20 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] x86/cpu/kvm: Provide UNTRAIN_RET_VM Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 7:55 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 21:20 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] x86/alternatives: Simplify ALTERNATIVE_n() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-15 20:49 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-15 22:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 8:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-07 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 15:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-07 15:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-09 7:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-09 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-09 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 14:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-12 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-13 4:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-13 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-13 14:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-13 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-15 7:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-15 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-15 12:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-13 4:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] x86/cpu: Use fancy alternatives to get rid of entry_untrain_ret() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-14 16:44 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Fix up SRSO stuff Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 19:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-14 19:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 20:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-14 20:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15 14:26 ` [PATCH] x86/srso: Explain the untraining sequences a bit more Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15 15:41 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
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