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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
	 Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Tianyu Lan <tiala@microsoft.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	 David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	 Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 16/27] KVM: SVM: Add handler for VMGEXIT Secure AVIC NAE event
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 08:45:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ar0ul9g3bvHI3VOV@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arzns-SbdhuGntwm@blrnaveerao1>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026, Naveen N Rao wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 08:31:45PM +0530, Naveen N Rao wrote:
> With the below hunk, I think we should be able to catch invalidations 
> due to PUNCH_HOLE, HWPOISON, memslot DELETE and to-SHARED conversions, 
> and should help make the source of the invalidation clear:
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> index 96992d10cb2b..3c8daa876045 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> @@ -5571,11 +5571,36 @@ void sev_gmem_invalidate_range(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_gfn_range *range)
>                  * vCPU to re-establish its VMSA.
>                  */
>                 gpa_t gpa = READ_ONCE(to_svm(vcpu)->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gpa);
> +               gpa_t savic_gpa = READ_ONCE(to_svm(vcpu)->sev_es.snp_guest_savic_gpa);
> 
>                 if (VALID_PAGE(gpa) &&
>                     gpa_to_gfn(gpa) >= range->start &&
>                     gpa_to_gfn(gpa) < range->end)
>                         kvm_make_request_and_kick(KVM_REQ_VMSA_PAGE_RELOAD, vcpu);
> +
> +               /*
> +                * All PRIVATE invalidations that hit the Secure AVIC backing page in
> +                * this path will result in a subsequent access by the Secure AVIC HW
> +                * to cause a not-restartable #NPF killing the VM. Catch such
> +                * invalidations here so that the source of those invalidations is
> +                * clear, rather than a subsequent guest access resulting in a
> +                * unrecoverable #NPF.
> +                *
> +                * This is expected on guest teardown, so check if there is a valid
> +                * gmem.file before killing the VM.
> +                */
> +               if (VALID_PAGE(savic_gpa) &&
> +                   READ_ONCE(range->slot->gmem.file) &&
> +                   (range->attr_filter & KVM_FILTER_PRIVATE) &&
> +                   gpa_to_gfn(savic_gpa) >= range->start &&
> +                   gpa_to_gfn(savic_gpa) < range->end) {
> +                       if (!kvm->vm_dead) {
> +                               vcpu_err(vcpu, "Secure AVIC backing page invalidated, GPA 0x%llx!\n", savic_gpa);
> +                               dump_stack();
> +                               kvm_vm_dead(vcpu->kvm);
> +                               return;
> +                       }
> +               }

This is beyond gross.  If anything, this is just soldifying my opinion that Secure
AVIC is poorly architected in order to accomodate limitations in hardware/microcode,
and that KVM should not support Secure AVIC in its current form.

I'll take another look at some point, but I want to be very transparent that this
is about as far down on my priority list as something can get without falling off
entirely.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-30 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-08  6:31 [RFC PATCH v3 00/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for SEV-SNP Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:31 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/27] x86/apic: Propagate APIC_SPIV writes to hv for " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-10  2:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-10 15:02     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-11  4:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-13 17:38       ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  8:57         ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/27] x86/apic: Drop savic_eoi() in favor of native_apic_msr_eoi() " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:43   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  9:02     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/27] x86/kvm: Disable PV_SEND_IPI if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:52   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  9:42     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/27] x86/apic: Use AVIC_INCOMPLETE_IPI VMGEXIT for Secure AVIC IPI handling Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:59   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14 10:03     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add Secure AVIC CPU feature Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 18:32   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/27] KVM: SVM: Add helper to check if Secure AVIC is enabled for a guest Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 18:35   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/27] KVM: SVM: Set guest_apic_protected if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/27] kvm: irqfd: Have kvm_arch_has_irq_bypass() take struct kvm pointer Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/27] KVM: SVM: Disable IRQ bypass for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/27] KVM: SVM: Add avic_ipiv_is_soft_disabled() as a wrapper around enable_ipiv Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/27] KVM: SVM: Disable IPIv for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/27] KVM: SVM: Short-circuit a few AVIC flows " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/27] KVM: SVM: Warn if we ever receive AVIC_UNACCELERATED_ACCESS #VMEXIT Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/27] KVM: SVM: Do not inhibit AVIC for SEV-SNP guests if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/27] KVM: SVM: Set VGIF in VMSA area for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/27] KVM: SVM: Add handler for VMGEXIT Secure AVIC NAE event Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-08-26 16:09   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-22 15:01     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-09-30 14:43       ` Naveen N Rao
2026-09-30 15:45         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-09-30 19:54           ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/27] KVM: SVM: Do not intercept SECURE_AVIC_CONTROL MSR for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/27] KVM: x86: Add a new kvm_x86_op protected_apic_has_injectable_intr() Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/27] KVM: SVM: Implement kvm_x86_ops->protected_apic_has_injectable_intr() for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/27] KVM: SVM: Implement kvm_x86_ops->protected_apic_has_interrupt() " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/27] KVM: SVM: Add interrupt delivery support for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for incomplete IPI handling for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for injecting NMIs for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/27] KVM: SVM: Mandate use of split irqchip for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/27] KVM: SVM: Do not inject exceptions " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/27] KVM: SVM: Do not intercept exceptions for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/27] KVM: SVM: Advertise Secure AVIC support for SEV-SNP guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  9:20 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for SEV-SNP Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao

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