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From: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 15:42:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d36fdaad78296f3c43f84bc9c5b15a36.josef@toxicpanda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqxLgT41UyA-bV5J@pavilion.home>

On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 22:20:17 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > +	lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
> > +	WRITE_ONCE(t->rcu_tasks_irq_ip, ip);
> > +	t->rcu_tasks_exit_cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > +	raw_spin_lock_rcu_node(rtpcp);
> > +	list_add(&t->rcu_tasks_exit_list, &rtpcp->rtp_exit_list);
> > +	raw_spin_unlock_rcu_node(rtpcp);
>
> I don't think we can do that. This is too much unconditional overhead
> on the hot preemption path. rcu_tasks_trampoline_text() should be
> a condition here.

Sorry, I missed this one before sending v4/v5. Agreed, and it is gone
for v6: the hook is now just the WRITE_ONCE() of the IP plus the
rcu_tasks_trampoline_text() check, and the exit side a single store.

The IP store itself has to stay unconditional because of the kprobe
jump optimizer: its window is ordinary text, so a task parked there
before the optimizer decided to patch was not "trampoline text" when it
was preempted, and the optimizer needs to find it afterwards.

> And do we really need to maintain both lists? I understand that they
> have different purposes.
[...]
> Can the latter replace the former?

With the above there is only the holdout list left. The optimizer's
rcu_tasks_wait_irq_preempted() now does what classic does for its scan:
walk the task list plus the per-CPU exit lists (exit_tasks_rcu_start()
and friends stay shared between the two flavors for that), checking each
task's recorded IP. That is a slow path that only kprobe optimization
hits.

And thanks for picking up the core-RCU follow-on.

Josef

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-15 13:17 [PATCH RFC v3 00/13] rcu-tasks: build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/13] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Inline rcu_read_lock_trace() and annotate inside the reader Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 15:14   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-15 23:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 12:40       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 14:35           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:47             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 15:23                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 15:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 12:14                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-17 15:40                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 16:35                         ` Josef Bacik
2026-09-17 16:55                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 18:45                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-17 19:25                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 20:31                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-17 20:20   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-22 15:42     ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/13] kprobes: Expose the optprobe jump window to Tasks RCU Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/13] ftrace: Mark modules hosting direct-call trampolines for " Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/13] bpf: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the trampoline glue Josef Bacik
2026-09-16  3:45   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-17  1:16     ` Josef Bacik
2026-09-17  2:24       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/13] x86/ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/13] x86/kprobes: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the optprobe template Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/13] arm64: ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/13] samples: ftrace: Make the direct-call trampolines Tasks Trace readers Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/13] rcutorture: Make Tasks RCU readers Tasks Trace readers where required Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Assert no reader is held on return to userspace Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/13] x86, arm64: Build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci

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