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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: submitting-patches: Clarify half-baked review tags
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 16:44:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5ac5472-da79-4ac5-82de-36b2f5978f45@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a470cb65-4301-4b19-88fc-3555dff68b4c@kernel.org>


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On 05.11.26 16:33, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 05/11/2026 10:30, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>> On 05.11.26 10:19, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 09:27:30AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> Refactoring of driver subsystems or some core driver parts often come
>>>> with change of the actual drivers.  If that happens within one patch,
>>>> people giving "Reviewed-by" tag only to piece of the patch, like one
>>>> driver, and ignoring the rest including the main concept of the patch,
>>>> are not really reviewing "the patch".
>>>>
>>>> As explained in the Submitting Patches document, the "Reviewer's
>>>> statement of oversight" is for patch as in "entire patch" meaning:
>>>>
>>>>     (a) I have carried out a technical review of this patch to
>>>>         evaluate its appropriateness and readiness for inclusion into
>>>>         the mainline kernel.
>>>>
>>>> The sentence is explicit and complete, meaning it does not allow
>>>> implicit variations like: "this patch or part of this patch".
>>>>
>>>> Reviewing pieces of the patch while ignoring the main part of it, is
>>>> much closer to Acknowledgment, thus Ack, and "Reviewed-by" credit should
>>>> not be applicable.
>>>
>>> I strongly disagree. It's all explained in the plenty threads you have started
>>> on the Subject.
>>>
>>> TL;DR: As a reviewer for the piece in question I have done my part fully. It's
>>> not my issue that the piece is bundled into a single patch. We have options:
>>> 1) ask to split (and review as standalone piece);
>>> 2) add (partial) Rb with the pointers of what exactly has been reviewed;
>>> 3) ignore (silent agreement with the respective subsystem maintainer's opinion);
>>> 4) ...something I forgot?..
>>>
>>> (even partial) Rb != Ack.
>>>
>>
>> I fully agree with Andy.
>>
>> As the Xen maintainer I often have to look into such rework patches and often
>> enough especially the Xen specific parts are mentioned in the patch description
>> as "compile tested only".
>>
>> I see a "Reviewed-by: ... # Xen parts" in such cases as a feedback to the author
>> or committer that they don't have to look into those parts in more detail.
>>
>> The value of such a R-b: is more questionable in case of a pure rename of a
>> function or struct member, of course.
>>
> 
> So you don't agree with "Reviewed-by: # subpart"? Sorry, but I have
> troubles pointing your disagreement arguments to actual patch content.
I agree that "Reviewed-by: # subpart" is very valuable and should be used
in cases where the review really adds some value.

It is different to "Acked-by:" and IMHO not interchangeable with it.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05  8:27 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  8:50 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  8:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:06     ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  9:12       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:26         ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 10:59           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:28         ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05 11:03           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 11:19             ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05 11:53               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 12:56                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 14:14                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-11-05  9:44         ` Wolfram Sang
2026-11-05  9:47           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05  9:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:48     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 10:55       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05  9:30   ` Jürgen Groß
2026-11-05 15:33     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 15:44       ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2026-11-05 15:53         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 15:59           ` Jürgen Groß
2026-11-05 16:22             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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