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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 18:15:39 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5aqzicp6oc.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260929121723.GI1616761@nvidia.com>

Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 11:44:28AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>
>> tsm_viommu_get_ops() runs with pci_tsm_rwsem held for read and takes a
>> temporary reference on the backend module (the CCA module). This keeps
>> the selected ops callable until vIOMMU initialization completes. iommufd
>> then drops the reference. This does not pin a particular TSM
>> registration or prevent tsm_unregister().
>
> That seems over complicated. Maybe we can't get to the sane locking I
> suggested earlier where TSM module is stable while a driver is bound,
> but we absolutely must have sane locking where we can "pin" the tsm
> for a pdev and it cannot be unregistered for long periods of time,
> such as while a viommu/vdev exists.
>
> That period should start right before getting the ops and continue to
> until the viommu is destroyed.
>
> No hot unplug of tsm modules while things are active.
>


That is essentially how it works. I decided to take the module reference
here and the tsm_dev reference in viommu_init() to keep the rest of
viommu_alloc() cleaner. That is, we have:

	struct module *owner = NULL;

	ops = tsm_viommu_get_ops(idev->dev, cmd->type, &owner);

	if (!ops) {
		ops = iommu_dev->ops->get_viommu_ops(idev->dev, cmd->type);
                
	rc = ops->viommu_init(viommu, idev->dev,
	if (rc)
		goto out_put_hwpt;

out_put_idev:
	module_put(owner);

The tsm_dev and module details are needed only by tsm_viommu, not by a
generic SMMU driver. For viommu_init() to take ownership of the resources
acquired by get_ops(), I would either need to add a viommu_info argument
to viommu_init(), affecting all IOMMU driver implementations, or make the
error handling conditional and awkward.

What I have now is that get_ops() pins the module, so the CCA module
cannot disappear after get_ops() returns. We retain that reference until
viommu_init() completes, and viommu_init() establishes the long-term
pins internally. This keeps the API simpler.

>
>> CCA vIOMMU initialization takes a tsm_dev reference, keeping the TSM
>> object and its PCI/TSM resources alive until the vIOMMU is
>> destroyed.
>
> iommufd should do this, so long as the viommu object exists the tsm
> for it exists. It should not be inside tsm drivers.
>

That would expose more TSM details to iommufd. The reference must also
be acquired under pci_tsm_rwsem.

/* Pin the current TSM and revalidate the selected vIOMMU operations. */
struct tsm_dev * pci_tsm_viommu_get_tsm_dev(struct pci_dev *pdev,
		enum iommu_viommu_type type,
		const struct iommufd_viommu_ops *expected_ops)
{
	const struct pci_tsm_ops *ops;
	const struct iommufd_viommu_ops *viommu_ops;
	struct tsm_dev *tsm_dev;
	int ret = -ENODEV;

	{
		guard(rwsem_read)(&pci_tsm_rwsem);
		if (!pdev->tsm)
			return ERR_PTR(-ENODEV);
		if (pdev->tsm->tsm_dev->unregistering)
			return ERR_PTR(-ENODEV);
		ops = to_pci_tsm_ops(pdev->tsm);
		if (!ops->viommu_get_ops)
			return ERR_PTR(-ENODEV);
		tsm_dev = pdev->tsm->tsm_dev;
		/* Unlike get_device(), this also keeps PCI/TSM resources active. */
		if (!tsm_try_get(tsm_dev))
			return ERR_PTR(-ENODEV);

		viommu_ops = ops->viommu_get_ops(&pdev->dev, type);
		if (viommu_ops == expected_ops)
			return tsm_dev;
		if (IS_ERR(viommu_ops))
			ret = PTR_ERR(viommu_ops);
	}

	tsm_put(tsm_dev);
	return ERR_PTR(ret);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pci_tsm_viommu_get_tsm_dev);


>
>> The initialization callback also takes a reference on the CCA module so
>> that the vIOMMU callbacks remain available after iommufd drops the
>> temporary discovery reference described above.
>
> The initial pin should do this since it is the only way to prevent
> unregistration.
>

see above

>
>> For a link TSM-connected device, a vdevice holds a pci_tsm_context
>> reference. The context holds device references and increments PF0's
>> context_users under the PF0 mutex. PCI/TSM disconnect checks that count
>> under the same mutex and returns -EBUSY while contexts remain. The
>> context is released during vdevice teardown. This prevents link
>> disconnect while a vdevice is active without blocking tsm_unregister().
>
> This one seems reasonable, but not sure a mutex is needed on top of a
> a simple refcount scheme.
>

The PF0 mutex is already used by PCI/TSM to serialize some of these
operations. I can double-check whether it is necessary here.

>
>> A new unregistering state is added to tsm_dev. tsm_unregister() sets it,
>> unregisters the class device, and drops the registration reference. New
>> vIOMMU allocations, vdevice contexts, and PCI TSM connect/lock
>> operations reject the TSM once this state is set. Existing users retain
>> their references and can be torn down normally, so tsm_unregister() does
>> not need to wait for them. PCI/TSM teardown occurs when the last active
>> tsm_dev reference is dropped.
>
> This seems over complicated, tsm unregistration should be made
> impossible while it is not able to complete. We shouldn't need the
> complexity of states here when we don't need to support tsm
> hot-unplug.
>
>
> ideally the module refcount handles this and the only way to trigger a
> tsm remove is through module unload, with no sysfs path?
>


I agree. The existing code takes extra care to allow tsm_unregister().
However, if unloading arm-cca-host.ko is the only way to trigger
unregistration, as it currently is, we can avoid this complexity.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-29 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 14:01 [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/11] vfio: cache KVM VM file references instead of raw struct kvm pointers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/11] vfio: cdev: Reject duplicate bind before updating KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-25  5:49     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/11] iommufd/device: Associate KVM file pointer with iommufd_device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/11] iommufd/viommu: Keep a reference to the KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/11] iommu: Add a helper to validate a vIOMMU parent Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:48     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:36         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 12:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 15:39             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 16:17               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 18:08                 ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 18:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 22:24                     ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 23:03                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29  5:55                         ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-29 12:30                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:59     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/11] coco: tsm: Expose active-user lifetime references Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:08     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:41         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-29  6:14           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 12:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 12:45               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-09-29 13:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:51         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/11] iommufd: Add the vdevice TSM request ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-18 13:09   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-09-18 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/11] PCI/TSM: Remove the legacy guest request interface Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 18:47   ` Sonang Patel
2026-09-28 23:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:17 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24  7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:35     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28 13:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:29   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28  3:41     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28  3:55       ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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