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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 13:34:53 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5av76sj10a.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atooh7uO2RauUTfY@FV6GYCPJ69>

Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> writes:

> Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 12:30:47PM +0200, aneesh.kumar@kernel.org wrote:
>>Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> writes:
>>
>>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>>>

 [ ... 67 lines skipped ... ] 

>>>
>>
>>I am using this to understand what the IDE setup flow would look like,
>>but it is unclear whether the connect flow belongs in an attestation
>>framework. I understand the desire to pass the certificate slot number
>>as part of connect, and sysfs is probably not a suitable interface for
>>that. However, is CTLV the interface we want to use for connect?
>
> I was thinking about this and "connect" really does not belong in the
> attestation CTLV (same applies to "lock"). I was thinking about some
> parallel PCITSM CTLV instance, but that does not really click as well.
>
> Currently I'm thinking we can maintain existing "connect" in sysfs and
> extend it with "lock" sysfs knob for Realm side. Both would create
> ctlv-attestation-spdm instance. The same spdm instance may be created
> for other non-PCI-backed device.
>
> The proposed host flow is:
>
>     sysfs connect: select tsmN and prepare the connection
>         -> negotiate SPDM and discover certificates
>         -> register ctlv-attestation-spdm instance in DISCOVERED state
>
>     SPDM_GET
>         -> populated certificate slots and digests
>
>     EVIDENCE_GET(CERT_CHAIN, blob-instance=slot) /*optional*/
>         -> retrieve candidate certificate chain for appraisal
>
>     SPDM_AUTHENTICATE(device-generation, spdm-slot=selected_slot)
>         -> authenticate the selected chain
>         -> complete backend-required session and IDE setup
>
>     sysfs disconnect
>         -> remove the attestation instance
>         -> destroy the native connection
>
> The slot is therefore selected after discovery, rather than supplied to
> connect. The attestation instance represents the prepared connection; it
> does not exist beforehand as a controller for a disconnected PCI function.
>

CCA currently takes the device identity index during pdev_create. I am
investigating how to retrieve the certificate chains for all slots. For
now, I have implemented the sequence below.

echo tsm0 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/$DEVICE/tsm/connect

./ctlvctl/ctlvctl --spec-dir=./specs/ exec ctlv0 device-get                                                               
# device-get, 1 fragment, generation 0                                                                                      
  device.generation 0            
  device.caps                                                                                                               
    cap.evidence                                                                                                            
      cap.min-challenge-length 0                                                                                            
      cap.max-challenge-length 0                                                                                            
      cap.max-total-output-length 369098752                                                                                 
      cap.evidence-flags evidence-accept
      cap.object                                                                                                            
        cap.blob-class cert-chain                                                                                           
        cap.blob-instance 0                                                                                                 
        cap.format spdm-cert-chain
        cap.representation raw                                                                                              
        cap.representation tcb-digest                                                                                       
        cap.hash-algo 4                                                                                                     
        cap.hash-algo 5          
        cap.hash-algo 6                                                                                                     
        cap.max-length 16777216                                                                                             
  device.info                                                                                                               
    pci.name 0000:02:00.0                       

I think we can use evidence-refresh to select the blob-instance for the
desired slot once the CCA specification supports that.

 ./ctlvctl/ctlvctl --spec-dir=./specs/ exec ctlv0 state-get                                                                
# state-get, 1 fragment, generation 0
  pci.generation 0                                                                                                          
  pci.connected 1                                                                                                           
  pci.locked 0                                                                                                              
  pci.accepted 0                 
  pci.tsm-id 0                                                                                                              
  pci.dsm 0000:02:00.0                                                                                                      

device is marked connected, but IDE is not setup as indicated by pci.accepted = 0


./ctlvctl/ctlvctl --spec-dir=./specs/ exec ctlv0 evidence-get --json '{
"evidence.challenge": "hex:", "evidence.object": [{
"evidence.blob-class": "cert-chain", "evidence.format":
"spdm-cert-chain", "evidence.blob-instance": 0,
"evidence.representation": "raw", "evidence.data": { "file":
"/tmp/cert0.bin", "data-buf-size": 16777216 } }] }'
# evidence-get, 1 fragment, generation 0                                                                                    
  device.generation 0                                                                                                       
  evidence.generation 1                                                                                                     
  evidence.object-length 1632           


I added the file: attribute to verify the evidence blob's contents. ie,
we can do:

# file cert0.bin  
cert0.bin: Certificate, Version=3

./ctlvctl/ctlvctl --spec-dir=./specs/ exec ctlv0 evidence-accept device.generation=0 evidence.generation=1
# acknowledged
./ctlvctl/ctlvctl --spec-dir=./specs/ exec ctlv0 state-get
# state-get, 1 fragment, generation 0
  pci.generation 0
  pci.connected 1
  pci.locked 0
  pci.accepted 1
  pci.tsm-id 0
  pci.dsm 0000:02:00.0


I am wondering why we need 'devsec-run' ops. Isn't that already the result of
'evidence-accept'?

-aneesh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-23  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 14:50 Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 22:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:23     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:26     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:00   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-20 23:39     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:54     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/20] ctlv: Add the root family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:28     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 12:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:07         ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 16:25     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/20] Documentation: ctlv: Add userspace ABI Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:06     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  0:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22  9:01     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/20] ctlv: Prepare message input handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  0:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22  8:27     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 12:55       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/20] ctlv: Prepare blob descriptor validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/20] ctlv: Prepare schema validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/20] ctlv: Prepare message output handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/20] ctlv: Prepare VA blob handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/20] ctlv: Prepare event queue support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  1:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22  9:04     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/20] ctlv: Add device and operation dispatch Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  1:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-22  9:05     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 18:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 12:58       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/20] Documentation: ctlv: Describe how to write a family Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:23     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 16:24         ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 16:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22  8:22             ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 19:21               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23 13:01                 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/20] attestation: Add the base family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/20] attestation: Prepare provider and instance core Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 13:04     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 16/20] attestation: Prepare measurement register journal Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 17/20] attestation: Add CTLV operation handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 18/20] tdx-guest: Expose the native attestation service API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 19/20] attestation: Add the TDX family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 20/20] attestation: Add the TDX family implementation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 22:07   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-16 23:43 ` [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16   ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-17 19:06     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:08       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:22         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 21:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 20:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 23:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-18 23:53           ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 12:08             ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 16:10               ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 22:56                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21  8:33                   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:12                     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:35                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 19:05                         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 10:54                           ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 11:24                             ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 18:51                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:19                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:23                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:40                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-22 19:40                                     ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 12:26                         ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 13:11                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 14:07                             ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 19:19                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:37                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-22 19:45                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 19:52                                     ` James Bottomley
2026-10-22 20:43                                       ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20  9:26                 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 13:45                 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 14:06                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 15:22                     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 16:11                       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-20 16:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:23                           ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 13:18                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-21 13:50                               ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-21 13:51                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:31                               ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:39                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:48                         ` James Bottomley
2026-10-21 13:55                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 12:40             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-19 23:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:49       ` James Bottomley
2026-10-20 13:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-22 10:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-22 15:38   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-22 16:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-23  8:04     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-10-23 11:32       ` Jiri Pirko

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