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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:54:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atjDlIBMg3dmXxHn@FV6GYCPJ69> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261021000003.71f78d99@jic23-hlaptop>

Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 01:00:03AM +0200, jic23@kernel.org wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 16:50:35 +0200
>Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>> 
>> Define CTLV's common TLV transport, ioctl, event records, identifiers
>> and limits. Add the in-kernel API used by family implementations and
>> generated code.
>> 
>> Assisted-by: Cursor: GPT-5.6 Sol
>> Assisted-by: Cursor: Claude Opus 5.5
>> Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>Minor stuff only.  Some of it moaning about toys we don't get in uapi
>headers that make kernel code 'so elegant' :)
>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/ctlv_family.h b/include/linux/ctlv_family.h
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..1ae4d3a536f7
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/linux/ctlv_family.h
>
>FWIW I fully agree with Jason that sometimes it is worth burning
>some lines and even duplicating things a bit to avoid too many
>complex macros.  I didn't have anything to add to comments on this file
>at this point.  Will see how new version looks!
>
>
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ctlv.h b/include/uapi/linux/ctlv.h
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..6bc0d1a296e6
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ctlv.h
>> @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@
>> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: ((GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note) OR BSD-3-Clause) */
>> +/*
>> + * Copyright (c) 2026, NVIDIA CORPORATION & AFFILIATES
>> + *
>> + * CTLV transport UAPI: the TLV wire format, the op-execution ioctl, the event
>> + * record header and transport limits. Schema-free; a family's constants
>> + * are generated into <linux/<family>_gen.h>, the root family's into
>> + * <linux/ctlv_gen.h>.
>> + */
>> +#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_CTLV_H
>> +#define _UAPI_LINUX_CTLV_H
>> +
>> +#include <linux/ioctl.h>
>> +#include <linux/types.h>
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * struct ctlv_attr - Attr header.
>> + * @len: this header plus its payload, excluding this attr's trailing padding
>> + * @flags: CTLV_ATTR_F_* bits
>> + * @attr_id: complete attr ID, or CTLV_ATTR_ROOT for a message root
>> + *
>> + * Attrs are aligned to CTLV_ALIGNTO, which is why @attr_id is __aligned_u64: a
>> + * 32-bit ABI would otherwise align this structure to four bytes. A nested
>> + * payload is the concatenation of CTLV_ALIGN(child.len) bytes per child, so
>> + * child padding counts inside the containing attr's @len while a leaf's own
>
>Whilst I get what you mean, leaf doesn't feel like a clear concept in this
>comment block.  Maybe 'this attrs own padding does not.' or something like that?
>
>> + * padding does not. Scalar payloads are native-endian. Within each request
>> + * root or nest, occurrences of one @attr_id are contiguous; different IDs
>> + * otherwise have no required order.
>> + */
>> +struct ctlv_attr {
>> +	__u32 len;
>> +	__u32 flags;
>> +	__aligned_u64 attr_id;
>> +};
>> +
>> +#define CTLV_ALIGNTO 8
>> +#define CTLV_ALIGN(_len) (((_len) + CTLV_ALIGNTO - 1) & ~(CTLV_ALIGNTO - 1))
>
>Could this use __ALIGN_KERNEL() from uapi/linux/const.h?

Okay.


>
>
>> +
>> +/* Set exactly on root and nested attrs, clear on scalar attrs. */
>> +#define CTLV_ATTR_F_NESTED		(1U << 0)
>> +/* Query fragments: set on the root and each nest logically open at the end. */
>> +#define CTLV_ATTR_F_FRAG_MORE		(1U << 1)
>> +/*
>> + * A request attr, never the root, that a device whose schema does not declare
>> + * its ID skips whole instead of refusing the message. An ID that schema does
>> + * declare is held to it wherever it appears, so this asks to be forgiven what
>> + * this kernel has never heard of and nothing else.
>> + */
>> +#define CTLV_ATTR_F_IGNORE_IF_UNKNOWN	(1U << 2)
>
>Doesn't really matter but could use __BITUL() just to hammer home this are single
>bits. Places like pci_regs.h have started doing this for new things.

Sure.


>
>
>
>> +/* Implementation limits, not wire-field maxima: raising them is compatible. */
>> +
>> +/* Request roots, action replies, query reply fragments and event roots. */
>> +#define CTLV_MAX_INLINE_MESSAGE_LEN	0x100000	/* 1 MiB */
>> +/* Includes the error information root. */
>> +#define CTLV_MAX_ERROR_LEN		0x4000		/* 16 KiB */
>> +/* The root attr is at depth zero. */
>> +#define CTLV_MAX_NEST_DEPTH		32
>> +#define CTLV_DEFAULT_QUERY_REPLY_LEN	0x10000		/* 64 KiB */
>> +#define CTLV_MAX_EVENT_QUEUE_LEN	0x1000000	/* 16 MiB */
>
>Pity the linux/sizes.h header isn't in UAPI as result is we need
>those comments on what the sizes are.  Ah well, never mind.

I already eliminated all of them. Some are kernel internal, some
userspace internal, some I moved to introspection.


>
>> +
>> +#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_CTLV_H */
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 14:50 [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/20] ctlv: Add the schema language and generator Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 22:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:23     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/20] ctlv: Add the UAPI wire format and family API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:26     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:00   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-20 23:39     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-21 13:54     ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/20] ctlv: Add the root family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:28     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 12:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:07         ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 23:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/20] Documentation: ctlv: Add userspace ABI Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 14:06     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  0:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/20] ctlv: Prepare message input handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  0:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/20] ctlv: Prepare blob descriptor validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/20] ctlv: Prepare schema validation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/20] ctlv: Prepare message output handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/20] ctlv: Prepare VA blob handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/20] ctlv: Prepare event queue support Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  1:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/20] ctlv: Prepare runtime introspection Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/20] ctlv: Add device and operation dispatch Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21  1:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/20] Documentation: ctlv: Describe how to write a family Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:23     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/20] attestation: Add the base family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/20] attestation: Prepare provider and instance core Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 13:04     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 16/20] attestation: Prepare measurement register journal Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 17/20] attestation: Add CTLV operation handling Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 18/20] tdx-guest: Expose the native attestation service API Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 19/20] attestation: Add the TDX family specification and generated files Jiri Pirko
2026-10-15 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 20/20] attestation: Add the TDX family implementation Jiri Pirko
2026-10-16 23:43 ` [PATCH RFC 00/20] attestation: Add a common subsystem and TDX support Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 18:16   ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-17 19:06     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:08       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 19:22         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 21:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 20:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-17 20:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-17 23:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-18 23:53           ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 12:08             ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-19 16:10               ` Dionna Glaze
2026-10-19 22:56                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21  8:33                   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-21 14:12                     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:35                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20  9:26                 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-20 13:45                 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 14:06                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 15:22                     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-20 16:11                       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-20 16:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:23                           ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 13:18                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-21 13:50                               ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-10-21 13:51                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 14:31                               ` Mimi Zohar
2026-10-21 14:39                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-21 12:48                         ` James Bottomley
2026-10-21 13:55                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-19 12:40             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-19 23:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-20 12:49       ` James Bottomley
2026-10-20 13:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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