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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nikos Nikoleris <nikos.nikoleris@arm.com>,
	Linu Cherian <linu.cherian@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Disable HVO sysctl if arch doesn't support HVO
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 14:45:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08C72590-E44F-4DF3-B1DE-E7CAC0A43CAD@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADrL8HWOPP6PLUVvL+v0-UA6YMG-o4p7dY6UmWif1aDCDgscoA@mail.gmail.com>



> On Nov 11, 2026, at 05:50, James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2026 at 11:02 PM Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2026, at 08:21, James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do not create the vm.hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap sysctl when the
>>> architecture lacks support. This serves only to avoid confusion for
>>> users.
>>> 
>>> arm64 support for HVO is conditional on certain hardware features being
>>> enabled for all online CPUs. By the time hugetlb_vmemmap_init() runs,
>>> all secondary CPUs will have started, and the system feature set will
>>> have stabilized, including HVO-through-BBM, which
>>> arch_hugetlb_vmemmap_optimization_supported() checks for.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
>>> ---
>>> mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.c b/mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.c
>>> index 8596a462fee6..817ce39d4cf3 100644
>>> --- a/mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.c
>>> +++ b/mm/hugetlb_vmemmap.c
>>> @@ -763,6 +763,21 @@ static int __init hugetlb_vmemmap_init(void)
>>>      /* HUGETLB_VMEMMAP_RESERVE_SIZE should cover all used struct pages */
>>>      BUILD_BUG_ON(__NR_USED_SUBPAGE > HUGETLB_VMEMMAP_RESERVE_PAGES);
>>> 
>>> +     /*
>>> +      * Architectures that need to probe CPU support for HVO have done
>>> +      * such probing now. arch_hugetlb_vmemmap_optimization_supported()
>>> +      * will return the correct value.
>>> +      */
>>> +     if (!arch_hugetlb_vmemmap_optimization_supported()) {
>> 
>> I'm wondering if we could put this architectural check into hugetlb_vmemmap_optimizable(),
>> 
>> 
>>> +             if (vmemmap_optimize_enabled)
>>> +                     pr_info("vmemmap optimization not supported by hardware\n");
>> 
>> then, we do not need those code. If the current kernel does not support HVO,
>> then the sysctl does not exist. It's already a common case when the size of
>> struct page is not power of two. If users really want to know whether HVO
>> is enabled, they can check via this sysctl file. Therefore, we don't need to
>> print a log line.
> 
> Yeah, I can put arch_hugetlb_vmemmap_optimization_supported() into
> hugetlb_vmemmap_optimizable(), that will make the diffs slightly
> smaller. And yeah I can remove the print. I put it there mostly
> because it can be confusing. A command line that gets you HVO on one
> arm64 host might not give you HVO on another arm64 host, and the print
> would give a user a clue as to why.

We already have the log to indicate that, like:

	pr_info("%d KiB vmemmap can be freed for a %s page\n",
		hugetlb_vmemmap_optimizable_size(h) / SZ_1K, buf);

We will see **0 KiB** can be freed when hardware does not support HVO.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-11  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-03  0:21 [PATCH v2 00/20] Another attempt at HVO support on arm64 James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] hugetlb: Don't restore vmemmap of non-HVOed folios on bulk restore error James Houghton
2026-10-21  9:32   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-21 21:27     ` James Houghton
2026-10-22  2:17       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] arm64/pgtable: Clear AF with LDCLR on supported systems James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Always flush TLB if needed upon PTE remapping James Houghton
2026-10-21  9:54   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-21 21:59     ` James Houghton
2026-10-22  9:18       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-22 17:44         ` James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Leave pages partially HVOed upon restore failure James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Use try_update_vmemmap_pte to update in-use PTEs James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Allow architectures to dynamically disallow HVO James Houghton
2026-11-07  6:43   ` Muchun Song
2026-11-10 22:05     ` James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Disable HVO sysctl if arch doesn't support HVO James Houghton
2026-11-07  7:01   ` Muchun Song
2026-11-10 21:50     ` James Houghton
2026-11-11  6:45       ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] hugetlb: Fully initialize tail struct pages of non-pre-HVOed bootmem folios James Houghton
2026-11-07  7:06   ` Muchun Song
2026-11-10 22:09     ` James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Allow architectures to make HVO enablement boot-time only James Houghton
2026-11-07  7:39   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Expose whether HVO is enabled to architecture code James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] arm64: Add bbm_through_af capability James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] arm64: Implement try_update_vmemmap_pte using the AF trick James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] arm64: Support hugetlb vmemmap optimization James Houghton
2026-11-07  6:45   ` Muchun Song
2026-11-10  9:16     ` Kefeng Wang
2026-11-10 22:22       ` James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] hugetlb_vmemmap: Add fault injection for in-place vmemmap PTE updates James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] selftests/mm: Add HugeTLB vmemmap optimization stress test James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 16/20 DO-NOT-MERGE] hugetlb_vmemmap: Use try_populate_vmemmap_pmd for replacing in-use PMDs James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 17/20 DO-NOT-MERGE] arm64: Implement try_populate_vmemmap_pmd using AF trick James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 18/20 DO-NOT-MERGE] arm64: Drop BBML3 requirement for HVO James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 19/20 DO-NOT-MERGE] hugetlb_vmemmap: Add fault injection for in-place vmemmap PMD splits James Houghton
2026-10-03  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 20/20 DO-NOT-MERGE] selftests/mm: Add HVO pmd-split fault injection tests James Houghton

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