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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RE2: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 00:11:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020702001152.D2295@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31042.1025576745@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>; from kaos@ocs.com.au on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:25:45PM +1000

Keith Owens wrote:
> This is just one symptom of the overall problem, which is module code
> that adjusts its use count by executing code that belongs to the
> module.  The same problem exists on entry to a module function, the
> module can be removed before MOD_INC_USE_COUNT is reached.

Ah yes, now I remember, thanks. I filed that under "improper reference
tracking". After all, why would anybody hold an uncounted reference in
the first place ?

I can understand that the exact number of references may be unknown,
e.g. if I pass a reference to some registration function, which may in
turn hand it to third parties, but why wouldn't I know that there is
at least one reference ?

If some other module B hands out uncounted references on behalf of
some module A, it would seem natural for B to make sure that it
collects them before getting unloaded (and thereby releasing A).

> 1) Do the reference counting outside the module, before it is entered.

Evil, agreed ;-)

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-02  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-01 20:21 Michael Nguyen
2002-07-02  1:40 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02  2:25   ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  3:11     ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-07-02  3:42       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  4:11         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 22:23         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 19:23         ` Russ Lewis
2002-07-02  4:08     ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-02  4:53       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  5:43         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:36           ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:50             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-02 18:05               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-03  3:50               ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04  4:11             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-04  6:29               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-04  6:50                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-07 21:09                   ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-07 21:41                     ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:31                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:42                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:18                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-08  0:46                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 10:16                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  0:07                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  0:27                           ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09  3:09                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  6:25                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-09  8:59                               ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-07-09 11:06                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 12:29                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  1:50                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-07-09  2:37                   ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 23:35         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 22:41       ` RE2: " Alexander Viro
2002-07-02  8:52     ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:22       ` Werner Almesberger

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