From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:53:15 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32193.1025585595@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 2002 00:08:55 -0400." <3D212757.5040709@quark.didntduck.org>
On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 00:08:55 -0400,
Brian Gerst <bgerst@quark.didntduck.org> wrote:
>Keith Owens wrote:
>> 1) Do the reference counting outside the module, before it is entered.
>> Not only does this pollute all structures that contain function
>> pointers, it introduces overhead on every function dereference. All
>> of this just to cope with the relatively low possibility that a
>> module will be removed.
>
>Only "first use" (ie. ->open) functions need gaurding against unloads.
>Any subsequent functions are guaranteed to have a reference to the
>module, and don't need to bother with the refcount. I have a few ideas
>to optimize the refcounting better than it is now.
Also the close routine, otherwise there is a window where the use count
is 0 but code is still executing in the module.
Network operations such as SIOCGIFHWADDR take an interface name and do
not call any 'open' routine. The only lock I can see around dev_ifsioc
is dev_base_lock, AFAICT that will not protect against a module being
unloaded while SIOCGIFHWADDR is running. If dev_base_lock does protect
against module unload, it is not clear that it does so.
For netfilter, the use count reflects the number of packets being
processed. Complex and potentially high overhead.
All of this requires that the module information be passed in multiple
structures and assumes that all code is careful about reference
counting the code it is about to execute. There has to be a better
way!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-02 4:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 20:21 RE2: " Michael Nguyen
2002-07-02 1:40 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 2:25 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02 3:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 3:42 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02 4:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 22:23 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 19:23 ` Russ Lewis
2002-07-02 4:08 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-02 4:53 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-07-02 5:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:36 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-02 18:05 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-03 3:50 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04 4:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-04 6:29 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-04 6:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-07 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-07 21:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08 0:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08 6:42 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08 0:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-08 0:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08 6:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 10:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09 0:07 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09 0:27 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09 3:09 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09 6:25 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-09 8:59 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-07-09 11:06 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 12:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09 1:50 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-07-09 2:37 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 23:35 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 22:41 ` RE2: " Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 8:52 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:22 ` Werner Almesberger
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-02 12:20 Ariel Garcia
2002-07-01 17:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45 ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13 ` jlnance
2002-07-02 15:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48 ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04 0:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08 ` Werner Almesberger
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04 8:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03 0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang
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