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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:25:56 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207090744180.8911-100000@serv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22226.1026174466@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>

Hi,

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Keith Owens wrote:

>   Check use count.
>   Unregister.
>   Ensure that all code that had a reference to the module has either
>   dropped that reference or bumped the use count.
>   Check use count again, it may have been bumped above.
>   If use count is still 0, there are no stale references left.  It is
>   now safe to unload, call the module unallocate routine then free its
>   area.
>   If use count != 0, either schedule for removal when the count goes to
>   0 or reregister.  I prefer reregister, Rusty prefers delayed removal.
>
> Ensuring that all code has either dropped stale references or bumped
> the use count means that all processes that were not sleeping when
> rmmod was started must proceed to a sync point.  It is (and always has
> been) illegal to sleep while using module code/data (note: using, not
> referencing).

Who is changing the use count? How do you ensure that someone doesn't
cache a reference past that magic sync point?
IMO the real problem is that cleanup_module() can't fail. If modules
already do proper data acounting, it's not too difficult to detect if
there still exists a reference. In the driverfs example the problem is
that remove_driver() returns void instead of int, so it can't fail.

bye, Roman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-09  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-01 20:21 RE2: " Michael Nguyen
2002-07-02  1:40 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02  2:25   ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  3:11     ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02  3:42       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  4:11         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 22:23         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 19:23         ` Russ Lewis
2002-07-02  4:08     ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-02  4:53       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  5:43         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:36           ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:50             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-02 18:05               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-03  3:50               ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04  4:11             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-04  6:29               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-04  6:50                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-07 21:09                   ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-07 21:41                     ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:31                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:42                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:18                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-08  0:46                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 10:16                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  0:07                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  0:27                           ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09  3:09                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  6:25                             ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2002-07-09  8:59                               ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-07-09 11:06                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 12:29                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  1:50                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-07-09  2:37                   ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 23:35         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 22:41       ` RE2: " Alexander Viro
2002-07-02  8:52     ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:22       ` Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-02 12:20 Ariel Garcia
2002-07-01 17:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45   ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03   ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20   ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56   ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13     ` jlnance
2002-07-02 15:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53     ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07       ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48         ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50             ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26               ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04  0:00                 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04  8:04               ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08     ` Werner Almesberger
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04  8:36     ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03  0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang

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