From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:09:04 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020709000904.S2295@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22226.1026174466@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>; from kaos@ocs.com.au on Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:27:46AM +1000
Keith Owens wrote:
> The only difference between module and non-module is whether the code
> and data areas are freed or left in the kernel for the next user.
Yes, that's exactly why the entry-after-removal problem worries me:
this is something that also means trouble if you're a non-module.
Just remember the "timer pops after del_timer" problem a while back.
De-registration that leaves stuff behind is extremely dangerous, no
matter if you're a module or not.
I fully agree that return-after-removal is a different issue and
that there are several perfectly reasonable ways for dealing with
this.
> Ensuring that all code has either dropped stale references or bumped
> the use count means that all processes that were not sleeping when
> rmmod was started must proceed to a sync point. It is (and always has
> been) illegal to sleep while using module code/data (note: using, not
> referencing).
That's the problem with entry-after-removal: you may simply not be
able to know when all references are gone.
Since basically all references to modules go through some sort of
registration function, why not fix the registration functions ?
- Werner
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 20:21 RE2: " Michael Nguyen
2002-07-02 1:40 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 2:25 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02 3:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 3:42 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02 4:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 22:23 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 19:23 ` Russ Lewis
2002-07-02 4:08 ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-02 4:53 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02 5:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:36 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-02 18:05 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-03 3:50 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04 4:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-04 6:29 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-04 6:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-07 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-07 21:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08 0:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08 6:42 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08 0:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-08 0:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08 6:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 10:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09 0:07 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09 0:27 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09 3:09 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-07-09 6:25 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-09 8:59 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-07-09 11:06 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 12:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09 1:50 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-07-09 2:37 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 23:35 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 22:41 ` RE2: " Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 8:52 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:22 ` Werner Almesberger
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-02 12:20 Ariel Garcia
2002-07-01 17:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45 ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13 ` jlnance
2002-07-02 15:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53 ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48 ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04 0:00 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04 8:04 ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08 ` Werner Almesberger
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04 8:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03 0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang
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