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From: Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>
To: B.Steinbrink@gmx.de
Cc: dwalker@mvista.com, ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: nmi_watchdog=2 regression in 2.6.21
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:21:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828202135.GC2814@frankl.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188325835.2435.317.camel@dhcp193.mvista.com>

Bjorn,

It looks like we need to revisit the patch that makes the NMI
watchdog use the 2nd counter (PERFREVTSEL1/PMC1) for architectural
perfmon.

The Intel Core Duo processor has a bug (AE49) with the enable bit of the 2nd
counter not working. The Core 2 Duo/Quad processors also implement architectural
perfmon but they do not have the bug. Furthermore, they implement PEBS which
requires the use of the 1st counter.

I think we need to distinguish the 2 situtations. For Core Duo use the 1st counter,
for other architectural perfmon processor use the 2nd. That means we cannot simply
rely on X86_FEATURE_ARCH_PERFMON we need to check family/model number.

Thanks.


On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:30:35AM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 10:05 -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 07:34:44AM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 02:12 -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> > > > Daniel,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:55 -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Yet the model name looks strange. So we need to run one more test,
> > > > > > as the fam/model is not enough. What we need to check is whether or
> > > > > > not this processor implements architectural perfmon or not.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Could you please compile and run the attached program and send me 
> > > > > > the output?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The output below is all the output ..
> > > > > 
> > > > > eax=0x7280201: version=1  num_cnt=2
> > > > > 
> > > > Then you have a Core Duo processor and the commit from Bjorn should
> > > > fix the problem. If it does not, then there is something else wrong.
> > > > Unfortunately, I do not have a Core Duo machine to try and reproduce.
> > > 
> > > There must be something else wrong, cause the problem persists .. As I
> > > said in past emails to Bjorn, I tested his commit in git, as well as the
> > > latest git all with the same issue (as well as bisecting git)..
> > > 
> > > If the hardware is buggy then we need some way to determine that..
> > > 
> > Could you instrument check_nmi_watchdog() to verify that you terminate
> > this function? Normally there is a safety mechanism in there.
> > 
> > Another  possibility is that you get flooded with NMI interrupts and
> > do not make forward progress.
> 
> Here is some output from my boot log,
> 
> md: raid1 personality registered for level 1
> device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
> ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
> TCP cubic registered
> NET: Registered protocol family 1
> NET: Registered protocol family 17
> Testing NMI watchdog ... CPU#0: NMI appears to be stuck (0->0)!
> CPU#1: NMI appears to be stuck (0->0)!
> CPU#2: NMI appears to be stuck (0->0)!
> CPU#3: NMI appears to be stuck (0->0)!
> Starting balanced_irq
> <hangs>
> 
> So it does appear to make it out of the check_nmi_watchdog() function
> even tho there is a problem with the watchdog .. "Starting balance_irq"
> is in balanced_irq_init(). It usually hangs at this spot , but with
> initcall_debug on it once hung a little further down ..
> 
> It seems like there might be some other interrupt going off too early,
> that causes the system to hang..
> 
> As you can see from the log above, this system is a quad.. Two physical
> cpus each with two cores.
> 
> Daniel

-- 

-Stephane

      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08  0:06 Daniel Walker
2007-08-08 14:20 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-08-08 15:20   ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-20 16:44   ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-23 20:08     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-23 21:22       ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27  0:45         ` Who wants to maintain KR list for stable releases? (was Re: nmi_watchdog=2 regression in 2.6.21) Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27  7:51           ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-27  9:41             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-27 11:35               ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 16:09               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-27 16:05                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 11:38             ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 12:35               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-27 15:02                 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 15:13               ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 15:26                 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 15:39                   ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 17:02                     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 17:17                       ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 19:12                     ` David Rees
2007-08-29  7:42                       ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-08-29 22:23                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-29 23:59                           ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-08-30  8:51                             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-30 15:24                             ` Who wants to maintain KR list for stable releases? Stefan Richter
     [not found]                               ` <32209efe0708300950r5787402l4d02cedd862314fd@mail.gmail.com>
2007-08-30 22:11                                 ` Al Boldi
2007-09-03 12:29                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-03 13:20                                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-30 15:54                           ` Who wants to maintain KR list for stable releases? (was Re: nmi_watchdog=2 regression in 2.6.21) Bill Davidsen
2007-09-03 12:43                             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-27 16:26             ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 16:44               ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-27 16:52                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-27 17:08                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 18:26                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-27  8:11           ` David Rees
2007-08-27 11:42             ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 14:39           ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 15:11             ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-27 17:54   ` nmi_watchdog=2 regression in 2.6.21 Stephane Eranian
2007-08-27 17:55     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-27 22:55       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-27 23:07         ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-28  9:12           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-28 14:34             ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-28 17:05               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-28 18:30                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-28 19:46                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-28 20:13                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-29 21:24                       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-30  1:21                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-30 21:05                           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-31 14:43                             ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-31 16:21                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-08-31 16:35                                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-31 18:06                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-09-01  0:24                                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-01  1:00                                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-09-01  1:36                                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-01 10:19                                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-01 19:51                                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-09-01 20:32                                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-01 20:46                                                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-01  9:12                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-28 20:26                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-28 20:21                   ` Stephane Eranian [this message]

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