From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Tomas Glozar <tglozar@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Wen Yang <wen.yang@linux.dev>,
Tobias Schaffner <tobias.schaffner@siemens.com>,
Viktor Malik <vmalik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/15] tools/rv: Add BPF monitors
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 09:48:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261021094853.29b9f7be@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8d8b080f403eed617242a3276717706b4081ed1.camel@redhat.com>
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:54:04 +0200
Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I vote 1, much simpler (but maybe I just haven't quite got the issue). I
> > feel a bit ensure about adding RV kfuncs and would only go that route if
> > there is no other way.
>
> We can go down that route and see how it behaves.
BTW, I'm curious if it isn't possible to keep both in-kernel and BPF
monitors? That is, for those cases that do not change often and has a well
known model, to simply keep those as modules and hard coded.
But this entire thread started with people that wanted BPF type of
monitors for more flexibility. I would argue that is an entirely separate
use case. For them, it should be a fully BPF solution, with a few hooks
into the RV infrastructure.
It currently is a big unknown if the BPF solution can handle all the use
cases of the current module method. My suggestion is to not try to do so.
Keep the module method for the more static use cases that do not need
dynamic changes. And create a purely BPF method for those that need BPF.
This thread is sounding like there's different requirements between the BPF
and module methods. If that's the case, let's keep them separate.
I agree with Alexei's first comment about not adding BPF to the module
method. But that doesn't mean we need to eliminate the module method
completely in order to use BPF. Instead, just create a new BPF pure method.
Perhaps in the future the BPF method may make the module method obsolete,
but I don't want users of the module method having to do all these
workarounds just to satisfy the BPF method while it is in development.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-01 15:20 [PATCH v2 00/15] rv: Add support for " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 7:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 11:55 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 19:40 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-04 7:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-04 7:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] tools/rv: Skip empty pid error in selftest if command failed Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] rv: Refactor da_trace() functions to get strings internally Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] rv: Cast result of model_get_*_name() Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-13 6:14 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-13 8:15 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-14 9:52 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-14 10:02 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] tools/rv: Move argument parsing from in_kernel to utils Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:25 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] tools/build: Add a feature test for bpftool-btf Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] tools/rv: Implement BPF monitor discovery and listing Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] tools/rv: Implement BPF monitor loading and tracing Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] tools/rv: Copy stripped bpf_atomic.h from libarena Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-07 12:59 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-08 9:00 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-08 11:16 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-09 10:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-11 0:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 7:43 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] tools/rv: Add BPF monitors Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-06 13:29 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-08 9:54 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-16 18:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-16 19:20 ` John Ogness
2026-10-17 10:42 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-17 15:17 ` John Ogness
2026-10-17 16:09 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-17 16:56 ` John Ogness
2026-10-17 23:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-18 12:10 ` John Ogness
2026-10-19 9:05 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 9:27 ` John Ogness
2026-10-19 9:46 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-10-19 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-19 10:01 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-10-19 10:43 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 11:05 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-10-19 12:47 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 13:05 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-10-21 7:26 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-19 13:02 ` John Ogness
2026-10-20 7:29 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-21 8:01 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-21 11:54 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-21 13:48 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-10-21 15:24 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-21 16:47 ` John Ogness
2026-10-22 6:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-22 8:15 ` John Ogness
2026-10-22 10:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-22 11:34 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-22 8:25 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-23 14:43 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-23 15:00 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-23 16:13 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 8:33 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 9:10 ` John Ogness
2026-10-19 10:48 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-19 12:51 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-19 13:14 ` John Ogness
2026-10-21 8:13 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-21 8:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-21 11:12 ` Nam Cao
2026-10-21 15:55 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-17 10:48 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] tools/rv: Define CONFIG_X86_64 statically for " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] tools/rv: Add reactors support to " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] verification/rvgen: Add support for " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:25 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] tools/rv: Add selftest for rv bpf monitors Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] verification/rvgen: Add selftest for rvgen -b Gabriele Monaco
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