From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/24] KVM: x86: Introduce per-VM external cache for splitting
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 23:01:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <313244596b4459326bf65f50849cafe434c76813.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXENNKjAKTM9UJNH@google.com>
On Wed, 2026-01-21 at 09:30 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> > On Tue, 2026-01-06 at 18:23 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > I have been thinking whether we can simplify the solution, not only just
> > for avoiding this complicated memory cache topup-then-consume mechanism
> > under MMU read lock, but also for avoiding kinda duplicated code about how
> > to calculate how many DPAMT pages needed to topup etc between your next
> > patch and similar code in DPAMT series for the per-vCPU cache.
> >
> > IIRC, the per-VM DPAMT cache (in your next patch) covers both S-EPT pages
> > and the mapped 2M range when splitting.
> >
> > - For S-EPT pages, they are _ALWAYS_ 4K, so we can actually use
> > tdx_alloc_page() directly which also handles DPAMT pages internally.
> >
> > Here in tdp_mmmu_alloc_sp_for_split():
> >
> > sp->external_spt = tdx_alloc_page();
> >
> > For the fault path we need to use the normal 'kvm_mmu_memory_cache' but
> > that's per-vCPU cache which doesn't have the pain of per-VM cache. As I
> > mentioned in v3, I believe we can also hook to use tdx_alloc_page() if we
> > add two new obj_alloc()/free() callback to 'kvm_mmu_memory_cache':
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/9e72261602bdab914cf7ff6f7cb921e35385136e.camel@intel.com/
> >
> > So we can get rid of the per-VM DPAMT cache for S-EPT pages.
> >
> > - For DPAMT pages for the TDX guest private memory, I think we can also
> > get rid of the per-VM DPAMT cache if we use 'kvm_mmu_page' to carry the
> > needed DPAMT pages:
> >
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu_internal.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu_internal.h
> > @@ -111,6 +111,7 @@ struct kvm_mmu_page {
> > * Passed to TDX module, not accessed by KVM.
> > */
> > void *external_spt;
> > + void *leaf_level_private;
> > };
>
> There's no need to put this in with external_spt, we could throw it in a new union
> with unsync_child_bitmap (TDP MMU can't have unsync children).
>
Agreed.
> IIRC, the main
> reason I've never suggested unionizing unsync_child_bitmap is that overloading
> the bitmap would risk corruption if KVM ever marked a TDP MMU page as unsync, but
> that's easy enough to guard against:
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> index 3d568512201d..d6c6768c1f50 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> @@ -1917,9 +1917,10 @@ static void kvm_mmu_mark_parents_unsync(struct kvm_mmu_page *sp)
>
> static void mark_unsync(u64 *spte)
> {
> - struct kvm_mmu_page *sp;
> + struct kvm_mmu_page *sp = sptep_to_sp(spte);
>
> - sp = sptep_to_sp(spte);
> + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(is_tdp_mmu_page(sp)))
> + return;
> if (__test_and_set_bit(spte_index(spte), sp->unsync_child_bitmap))
> return;
> if (sp->unsync_children++)
>
LGTM.
>
> I might send a patch to do that even if we don't overload the bitmap, as a
> hardening measure.
>
> > Then we can define a structure which contains DPAMT pages for a given 2M
> > range:
> >
> > struct tdx_dmapt_metadata {
> > struct page *page1;
> > struct page *page2;
> > };
> >
> > Then when we allocate sp->external_spt, we can also allocate it for
> > leaf_level_private via kvm_x86_ops call when we the 'sp' is actually the
> > last level page table.
> >
> > In this case, I think we can get rid of the per-VM DPAMT cache?
> >
> > For the fault path, similarly, I believe we can use a per-vCPU cache for
> > 'struct tdx_dpamt_memtadata' if we utilize the two new obj_alloc()/free()
> > hooks.
> >
> > The cost is the new 'leaf_level_private' takes additional 8-bytes for non-
> > TDX guests even they are never used, but if what I said above is feasible,
> > maybe it's worth the cost.
> >
> > But it's completely possible that I missed something. Any thoughts?
>
> I *LOVE* the core idea (seriously, this made my week), though I think we should
> take it a step further and _immediately_ do DPAMT maintenance on allocation.
> I.e. do tdx_pamt_get() via tdx_alloc_control_page() when KVM tops up the S-EPT
> SP cache instead of waiting until KVM links the SP. Then KVM doesn't need to
> track PAMT pages except for memory that is mapped into a guest, and we end up
> with better symmetry and more consistency throughout TDX. E.g. all pages that
> KVM allocates and gifts to the TDX-Module will allocated and freed via the same
> TDX APIs.
Agreed.
Nit: do you still want to use the name tdx_alloc_control_page() instead of
tdx_alloc_page() if it is also used for S-EPT pages? Kinda not sure but
both work for me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-21 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-06 10:16 [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 21:08 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07 9:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 16:39 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-08 19:05 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-08 19:24 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-09 16:21 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 18:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 2:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:50 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 1:48 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 1:00 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 8:35 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:10 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 6:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 6:15 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 5:55 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] x86/tdx: Introduce tdx_quirk_reset_folio() to reset private " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 7:54 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-27 3:40 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 19:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce split_external_spte() under write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 12:25 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 23:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:28 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 8:35 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 8:49 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 10:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:40 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:06 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 12:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-20 17:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-22 6:27 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 17:57 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-20 18:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-22 6:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] KVM: TDX: Honor the guest's accept level contained in an EPT violation Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 0:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 6:42 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] KVM: TDX: Get/Put DPAMT page pair only when mapping size is 4KB Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add loud warning when tdx_pamt_put() fails Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] KVM: x86: Introduce per-VM external cache for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-21 1:54 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-21 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 19:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-21 23:01 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2026-01-22 7:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 7:30 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-22 7:49 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 10:33 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] KVM: TDX: Implement per-VM external cache for splitting in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] KVM: TDX: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for the new S-EPT page for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] x86/tdx: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for guest private memory to demote Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:52 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] x86/tdx: Pass guest memory's PFN info to demote for updating pamt_refcount Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 21:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 22:04 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 23:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-07 9:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-08 20:11 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-09 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 16:12 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 17:16 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 18:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 1:39 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 2:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 19:56 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-13 6:10 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:40 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 9:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 19:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-07 20:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-12 20:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 0:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 1:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 9:23 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 15:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 18:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-15 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 18:13 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 18:56 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 0:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 15:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-19 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-30 15:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-03 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-02-09 17:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:57 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 17:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 17:45 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 22:25 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 1:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 0:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 11:25 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 14:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:25 ` Yan Zhao
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