From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote()
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 11:10:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <baf6df2cc63d8e897455168c1bf07180fc9c1db8.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWn4P2zx1u+27ZPp@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>
On Fri, 2026-01-16 at 16:35 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Hi Kai,
> Thanks for reviewing!
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 09:00:29AM +0800, Huang, Kai wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Enable tdh_mem_page_demote() only on TDX modules that support feature
> > > TDX_FEATURES0.ENHANCE_DEMOTE_INTERRUPTIBILITY, which does not return error
> > > TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE on basic TDX (i.e., without TD partition) [2].
> > >
> > > This is because error TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE is difficult to handle.
> > > The TDX module provides no guaranteed maximum retry count to ensure forward
> > > progress of the demotion. Interrupt storms could then result in a DoS if
> > > host simply retries endlessly for TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE. Disabling
> > > interrupts before invoking the SEAMCALL also doesn't work because NMIs can
> > > also trigger TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE. Therefore, the tradeoff for basic
> > > TDX is to disable the TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE error given the
> > > reasonable execution time for demotion. [1]
> > >
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > v3:
> > > - Use a var name that clearly tell that the page is used as a page table
> > > page. (Binbin).
> > > - Check if TDX module supports feature ENHANCE_DEMOTE_INTERRUPTIBILITY.
> > > (Kai).
> > >
> > [...]
> >
> > > +u64 tdh_mem_page_demote(struct tdx_td *td, u64 gpa, int level, struct page *new_sept_page,
> > > + u64 *ext_err1, u64 *ext_err2)
> > > +{
> > > + struct tdx_module_args args = {
> > > + .rcx = gpa | level,
> > > + .rdx = tdx_tdr_pa(td),
> > > + .r8 = page_to_phys(new_sept_page),
> > > + };
> > > + u64 ret;
> > > +
> > > + if (!tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt(&tdx_sysinfo))
> > > + return TDX_SW_ERROR;
> > >
> >
> > For the record, while I replied my suggestion [*] to this patch in v2, it
> > was basically because the discussion was already in that patch -- I didn't
> > mean to do this check inside tdh_mem_page_demote(), but do this check in
> > KVM page fault patch and return 4K as maximum mapping level.
> >
> > The precise words were:
> >
> > So if the decision is to not use 2M page when TDH_MEM_PAGE_DEMOTE can
> > return TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE, maybe we can just check this
> > enumeration in fault handler and always make mapping level as 4K?
> Right. I followed it in the last patch (patch 24).
>
> > Looking at this series, this is eventually done in your last patch. But I
> > don't quite understand what's the additional value of doing such check and
> > return TDX_SW_ERROR in this SEAMCALL wrapper.
> >
> > Currently in this series, it doesn't matter whether this wrapper returns
> > TDX_SW_ERROR or the real TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE -- KVM terminates the
> > TD anyway (see your patch 8) because this is unexpected as checked in your
> > last patch.
> >
> > IMHO we should get rid of this check in this low level wrapper.
> You are right, the wrapper shouldn't hit this error after the last patch.
>
> However, I found it's better to introduce the feature bit
> TDX_FEATURES0_ENHANCE_DEMOTE_INTERRUPTIBILITY and the helper
> tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt() together with the demote SEAMCALL wrapper.
> This way, people can understand how the TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESTARTABLE error is
> handled for this SEAMCALL.
>
So the "handling" here is basically making DEMOTE SEAMCALL unavailable
when DEMOTE is interruptible at low SEAMCALL wrapper level.
I guess you can argue this has some value since it tells users "don't even
try to call me when I am interruptible because I am not available".
However, IMHO this also implies the benefit is mostly for the case where
the user wants to use this wrapper to tell whether DEMOTE is available.
E.g.,
err = tdh_mem_page_demote(...);
if (err == TDX_SW_ERROR)
enable_tdx_hugepage = false;
But in this series you are using tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt() for
this purpose, which is better IMHO.
So maybe there's a *theoretical* value to have the check here, but I don't
see any *real* value.
But I don't have strong opinion either -- I guess I just don't like making
these low level SEAMCALL wrappers more complicated than what the SEAMCALL
does -- and it's up to you to decide. :-)
>
> What do you think about changing it to a WARN_ON_ONCE()? i.e.,
> WARN_ON_ONCE(!tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt(&tdx_sysinfo));
What's your intention?
W/o the WARN(), the caller _can_ call this wrapper (i.e., not a kernel
bug) but it always get a SW-defined error. Again, maybe it has value for
the case where the caller wants to use this to tell whether DEMOTE is
available.
With the WARN(), it's a kernel bug to call the wrapper, and the caller
needs to use other way (i.e., tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt()) to tell
whether DEMOTE is available.
So if you want the check, probably WARN() is a better idea since I suppose
we always want users to use tdx_supports_demote_nointerrupt() to know
whether DEMOTE can be done, and the WARN() is just to catch bug.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-16 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-06 10:16 [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 21:08 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07 9:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 16:39 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-08 19:05 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-08 19:24 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-09 16:21 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 18:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 2:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:50 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 1:48 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 1:00 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 8:35 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:10 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 6:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 6:15 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 5:55 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] x86/tdx: Introduce tdx_quirk_reset_folio() to reset private " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 7:54 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-27 3:40 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 19:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce split_external_spte() under write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 12:25 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 23:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:28 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 8:35 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 8:49 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 10:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:40 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:06 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 12:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-20 17:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-22 6:27 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 17:57 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-20 18:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-22 6:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] KVM: TDX: Honor the guest's accept level contained in an EPT violation Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 0:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 6:42 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] KVM: TDX: Get/Put DPAMT page pair only when mapping size is 4KB Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add loud warning when tdx_pamt_put() fails Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] KVM: x86: Introduce per-VM external cache for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-21 1:54 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-21 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 19:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-21 23:01 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-22 7:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 7:30 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-22 7:49 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 10:33 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] KVM: TDX: Implement per-VM external cache for splitting in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] KVM: TDX: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for the new S-EPT page for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] x86/tdx: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for guest private memory to demote Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:52 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] x86/tdx: Pass guest memory's PFN info to demote for updating pamt_refcount Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 21:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 22:04 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 23:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-07 9:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-08 20:11 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-09 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 16:12 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 17:16 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 18:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 1:39 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 2:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 19:56 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-13 6:10 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:40 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 9:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 19:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-07 20:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-12 20:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 0:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 1:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 9:23 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 15:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 18:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-15 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 18:13 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 18:56 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 0:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 15:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-19 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-30 15:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-03 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-02-09 17:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:57 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 17:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 17:45 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 22:25 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 1:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 0:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 11:25 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 14:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:25 ` Yan Zhao
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