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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/29] sched/deadline: Rebuild the root domains' accounting from the task list
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 08:31:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3cb19d75-4269-467c-9d58-6c3ec26abc3f@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avR6g-ndjl8Xdo1y@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>

Hi Juri,

> The new walk drops the per-task pi_lock that dominated the old cost, so
> the approach might be OK, but since this is Cc: stable and will
> eventually reach Android, maybe someone from there can confirm before we
> pull the trigger?
>
> Alternatively, a single global "any deadline task exist" bail would keep
> suspend/resume free for the no-DL case without reintroducing any
> per-cpuset bookkeeping to drift?

You are right: the walk costs too much with no deadline task. I
measured it.

The test runs in a 64-vCPU guest with no debug options and no deadline
task. A process holds N sleeping threads. A partition root is made and
removed, and each change rebuilds the accounting. The time of one
rebuild with this patch, in testing:

   threads    one rebuild
         0    0.04 to 0.08 ms
      1000    0.12 to 0.17 ms
     10000    0.7 to 1.2 ms
     30000    2.3 ms

The first three lines are from three runs, the last from one. Upstream
returns early for a cpuset with no deadline task, so its rebuild does
not grow with the number of threads. I did not measure it.

 From reading, a suspend runs one rebuild for each CPU it takes offline,
and a resume one for each CPU it brings back. With 8 CPUs and 10000
threads that is 14 rebuilds: 10 to 16 ms on this host, and more on a
phone.

So the planned next version skips the walk when no task holds a
deadline bandwidth, as you suggest. It keeps one count for the whole
system, and none per cpuset: the number of tasks whose dl_bw is not 0.
__setparam_dl() and __dl_clear_params() are the only places that change
the dl_bw of a task, and they keep it.

In the same test, a rebuild then takes 0.03 ms whatever the number of
threads. With a deadline task in the system, the walk runs as before. A
test on an Android device would still be welcome.

For comparison, the single list of accounted tasks you suggested on
patch 13 takes 0.03 ms in this test, whatever the number of threads. I
left it out because the rebuild then runs with interrupts disabled for
its whole length, which grows with the number of deadline tasks.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-08 18:53 [PATCH v5 00/29] sched/deadline: bandwidth accounting fixes and selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 01/29] sched: Fix cpuset_mutex double unlock in __sched_setscheduler() Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 02/29] sched: Refuse SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_PARAMS that would change the policy or the class Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 03/29] sched/deadline: Do not admit bandwidth for parameters that are kept Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 12:42   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 13:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 04/29] sched: Let a task boosted by a deadline waiter change its policy Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 13:38   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 05/29] sched/deadline: Do not divide by zero active CPUs of a root domain Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 14:30   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 14:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 15:09       ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 15:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 06/29] sched: Take cpuset_mutex for a deadline policy change only with pi Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 15:06   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 15:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 07/29] sched/deadline: Do not lose a throttled task switched out and back Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 16:05   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-09 16:29     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 18:55       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-09 18:56       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 08/29] sched/deadline: Take a deadline boost from the waiter's rt_mutex node Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 11:14   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 13:48     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 09/29] sched/deadline: Reset the deadline and the runtime with the parameters Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 13:18   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 13:41     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 10/29] sched/deadline: Reset the donor's runtime at a deboost in the class Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:17   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:56     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 11/29] sched/deadline: Release the bandwidth of a task that leaves the class asleep Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-10 19:47   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-10 20:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 12/29] sched/deadline: Reject SCHED_DEADLINE on exited tasks Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11  6:55   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 13/29] sched/deadline: Keep departing bandwidth across a root domain rebuild Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 12:59   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-11 15:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 16:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 19:19         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 14/29] sched/deadline: Fix this_bw when a task is changed during a remote wakeup Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 13:49   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 15/29] sched/deadline: Rebuild the root domains' accounting from the task list Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:31     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 16/29] sched/deadline: Record the root domain holding a task's bandwidth Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 15:54   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:33     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:06       ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 17/29] sched/deadline: Leave a dying task out of a rebuild of the accounting Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  6:40   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:34     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 18/29] sched/deadline: Move a task's bandwidth only where room was made Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:30   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  7:03   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:04       ` Andrea Parri
2026-11-13 15:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13  4:37   ` Waiman Long
2026-11-13 13:51     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 19/29] cgroup/cpuset: Wait for an attach before rebuilding the sched domains Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  7:50   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 20/29] cgroup/cpuset: Give back the bandwidth an attach did not move Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  9:19   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 21/29] cgroup/cpuset: Reserve the bandwidth in the root domain a task moves to Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:53 ` [PATCH v5 22/29] sched/deadline: Make a rebuild use the CPU recorded with a task's bandwidth Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:58     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 23/29] sched/deadline: Move a task's bandwidth when it must leave its CPU Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 19:41   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:58     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 24/29] sched/deadline: Cancel the replenishment timer with the parameters Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12  9:37   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 25/29] sched/deadline: Count the bandwidth a boosted task is given Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 10:29   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 26/29] sched/debug: Show the deadline bandwidth of each runqueue Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-12 10:36   ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-13 13:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-13 15:04       ` Juri Lelli
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 27/29] selftests/sched: Add a test of SCHED_DEADLINE policy round trips Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 28/29] selftests/sched: Test SCHED_DEADLINE bandwidth across a root domain rebuild Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-08 18:54 ` [PATCH v5 29/29] selftests/sched: Add a test of SCHED_DEADLINE bandwidth accounting Mathieu Desnoyers

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