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From: Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Libo Chen <libo.chen@oracle.com>,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jianyong Wu <jianyong.wu@outlook.com>,
	Yangyu Chen <cyy@cyyself.name>,
	Tingyin Duan <tingyin.duan@gmail.com>,
	Vern Hao <vernhao@tencent.com>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@intel.com>, Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 08/28] sched: Set up LLC indexing
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 18:43:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c332c5b-83d9-465c-b02f-6648af9a9fae@os.amperecomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ec61212-24d5-4147-898a-f93c03c6ac94@intel.com>

On 9/26/2025 9:51 PM, Chen, Yu C wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> On 9/26/2025 2:14 PM, Adam Li wrote:
>> Hi Chen Yu,
>>
>> I tested the patch set on AmpereOne CPU with 192 cores.
>> With certain firmware setting, each core has its own L1/L2 cache.
>> But *no* cores share LLC (L3). So *no* schedule domain
>> has flag 'SD_SHARE_LLC'.
>>
> 
> Good catch! And many thanks for your detailed testing and
> analysis.
> 
> Is this issue triggered with CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER disabled?
> 

Yes. With CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER enabled this issue will
not be triggered. The maximum sd_llc_idx will be less than MAX_LLC(64)
since we have 24 (192/8) cluster domains.

>> With this topology:
>> per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) is actually the cpu id (0-191).
>>
>> And kernel bug will be triggered at:
>> 'BUG_ON(idx > MAX_LLC)'
>>
> 
> Yes, the sd_llc_idx thing is a bit tricky - we want to use it to
> index into the static array struct sg_lb_stat.nr_pref_llc, and
> we have to limit its range. A better approach would be to
> dynamically allocate the buffer, so we could get rid of the
> 'idx > MAX_LLC' check, but that might complicate the code.
> 
>> Please see details bellow.
>>
>> The bug will disappear if setting 'MAX_LLC' to 192.
>> But I think we might disable CAS(cache aware scheduling)
>> if no domain has 'SD_SHARE_LLC'.
>>
> 
> I agree with you. Simply disabling cache-aware scheduling
> if there is no SD_SHARE_LLC would be simpler.
> 
>> On 8/9/2025 1:03 PM, Chen Yu wrote:
>> A draft patch like bellow can fix the kernel BUG:
>> 1) Do not call update_llc_idx() if domain has no SD_SHARE_LLC
>> 2) Disable CAS if domain has no SD_SHARE_LLC
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> index 8483c02b4d28..cde9b6cdb1de 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
>> @@ -704,7 +704,8 @@ static void update_top_cache_domain(int cpu)
>>          per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu) = size;
>>          per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) = id;
>>          rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc_shared, cpu), sds);
>> -       update_llc_idx(cpu);
>> +       if (sd)
>> +               update_llc_idx(cpu);
>>
> 
> OK, that make sense.
> 
>>          sd = lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_CLUSTER);
>>          if (sd)
>> @@ -2476,6 +2477,7 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>          int i, ret = -ENOMEM;
>>          bool has_asym = false;
>>          bool has_cluster = false;
>> +       bool has_llc = false;
>>          bool llc_has_parent_sd = false;
>>          unsigned int multi_llcs_node = 1;
>>
>> @@ -2621,6 +2623,9 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>
>>                  if (lowest_flag_domain(i, SD_CLUSTER))
>>                          has_cluster = true;
>> +
>> +               if (highest_flag_domain(i, SD_SHARE_LLC))
>> +                       has_llc = true;
>>          }
>>          rcu_read_unlock();
>>
>> @@ -2631,7 +2636,8 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
>>                  static_branch_inc_cpuslocked(&sched_cluster_active);
>>
>>   #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
>> -       if (llc_has_parent_sd && multi_llcs_node && !sched_asym_cpucap_active())
>> +       if (has_llc && llc_has_parent_sd && multi_llcs_node &&
> 
> multi_llcs_node will be false if there is no SD_SHARE_LLC domain on the
> platform, so I suppose we don’t have to introduce has_llc?
> multi_llcs is set to true iff there are more than 1 SD_SHARE_LLC domains under its
> SD_SHARE_LLC parent domain.
> 

If there is *no* SD_SHARE_LLC domain, my test shows 'multi_llcs_node' is still 1 (true).

Looks it is because the default value of 'multi_llcs_node' is 1.

build_sched_domains():
	unsigned int multi_llcs_node = 1;

And this condition is always false since we have no SD_SHARE_LLC domain,
therefore 'multi_llcs_node' will not be changed:

                        if (!(sd->flags & SD_SHARE_LLC) && child &&
                            (child->flags & SD_SHARE_LLC))

Thanks,
-adam

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-29 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-09  4:57 [RFC PATCH v4 00/28] Cache aware load-balancing Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:00 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/28] sched: " Chen Yu
2025-08-12  1:30   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-12  3:26     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:01 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/28] sched: Several fixes for cache aware scheduling Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:01 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/28] sched: Avoid task migration within its preferred LLC Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/28] sched: Avoid calculating the cpumask if the system is overloaded Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/28] sched: Add hysteresis to switch a task's preferred LLC Chen Yu
2025-09-29 13:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  4:31     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/28] sched: Save the per LLC utilization for better cache aware scheduling Chen Yu
2025-09-29 14:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  4:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/28] sched: Add helper function to decide whether to allow " Chen Yu
2025-10-01 13:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-02 11:31     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-02 11:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-02 12:51         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-02 17:46         ` Tim Chen
2025-08-09  5:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/28] sched: Set up LLC indexing Chen Yu
2025-09-26  6:14   ` Adam Li
2025-09-26 13:51     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-09-29 10:43       ` Adam Li [this message]
2025-09-30  2:54         ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/28] sched: Introduce task preferred LLC field Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/28] sched: Calculate the number of tasks that have LLC preference on a runqueue Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/28] sched: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/28] sched: Calculate the total number of preferred LLC tasks during load balance Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/28] sched: Tag the sched group as llc_balance if it has tasks prefer other LLC Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/28] sched: Introduce update_llc_busiest() to deal with groups having preferred LLC tasks Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/28] sched: Introduce a new migration_type to track the preferred LLC load balance Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/28] sched: Consider LLC locality for active balance Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/28] sched: Consider LLC preference when picking tasks from busiest queue Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/28] sched: Do not migrate task if it is moving out of its preferred LLC Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/28] sched: Introduce SCHED_CACHE_LB to control cache aware load balance Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/28] sched: Introduce SCHED_CACHE_WAKE to control LLC aggregation on wake up Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/28] sched: Introduce a static key to enable cache aware only for multi LLCs Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/28] sched: Turn EPOCH_PERIOD and EPOCH_OLD into tunnable debugfs Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/28] sched: Scan a task's preferred node for preferred LLC Chen Yu
2025-08-12  1:59   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-12  3:36     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/28] sched: Record average number of runninhg tasks per process Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/28] sched: Skip cache aware scheduling if the process has many active threads Chen Yu
2025-09-02  3:52   ` Tingyin Duan
2025-09-02  5:16   ` Tingyin Duan
2025-09-02  6:14     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-09-02  7:56       ` Duan Tingyin
2025-08-09  5:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/28] sched: Do not enable cache aware scheduling for process with large RSS Chen Yu
2025-09-26  8:48   ` Adam Li
2025-09-26 14:30     ` Chen, Yu C
2025-08-09  5:09 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/28] sched: Allow the user space to tune the scale factor for RSS comparison Chen Yu
2025-08-09  5:09 ` [RFC PATCH v4 28/28] sched: Add ftrace to track cache aware load balance and hottest CPU changes Chen Yu

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