From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks?
Date: 24 Nov 2001 14:28:00 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9tp6tg$mge$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tgpu68gw34.fsf@mercury.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <20011124103642.A32278@vega.ipal.net> <20011124184119.C12133@emma1.emma.line.org> <tgy9kwf02c.fsf@mercury.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Followup to: <tgy9kwf02c.fsf@mercury.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
By author: Florian Weimer <Florian.Weimer@RUS.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> > However, if it's really true that DTLA drives and their successor
> > corrupt blocks (generate bad blocks) on power loss during block writes,
> > these drives are crap.
>
> They do, even IBM admits that (on
>
> http://www.cooling-solutions.de/dtla-faq
>
> you find a quote from IBM confirming this). IBM says it's okay, you
> have to expect this to happen. So much for their expertise in making
> hard disks. This makes me feel rather dizzy (lots of IBM drives in
> use).
>
No sh*t. I have always been favouring IBM drives, and I had a RAID
system with these drives bought. It will be a LONG time before I buy
another IBM drive, that's for sure. I can't believe they don't even
have the decency of saying "we fucked".
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-24 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2001-11-24 13:03 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-24 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-24 16:36 ` Phil Howard
2001-11-24 17:19 ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-24 17:31 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-24 17:41 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-24 19:20 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-24 19:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-24 22:51 ` John Alvord
2001-11-24 23:41 ` Phil Howard
2001-11-25 0:24 ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-25 0:53 ` Phil Howard
2001-11-25 1:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-25 1:44 ` Sven.Riedel
2001-11-24 22:28 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-11-25 4:49 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-24 23:04 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2001-11-24 23:23 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-24 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-26 18:05 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-11-26 23:49 ` Martin Eriksson
2001-11-27 0:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-27 0:16 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-27 7:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-27 11:48 ` Ville Herva
2001-11-27 0:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-11-27 1:01 ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-27 1:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 1:57 ` Steve Underwood
2001-11-27 5:04 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-25 4:20 ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-11-25 12:30 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-25 15:04 ` Barry K. Nathan
2001-11-25 16:31 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-27 2:39 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-03 10:23 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-25 9:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-11-25 22:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-26 16:59 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-26 20:30 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-26 20:35 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-26 23:59 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-27 0:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 0:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 1:11 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-27 1:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 16:59 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-27 16:56 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-27 1:23 ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-26 23:00 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-27 2:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 0:19 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-27 23:35 ` Andreas Bombe
2001-11-28 14:32 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-27 3:39 ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-27 7:03 ` Ville Herva
2001-11-27 16:50 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-27 20:31 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-28 18:43 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-28 18:46 ` Rob Landley
2001-11-28 22:19 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-29 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-01 10:55 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-12-02 0:08 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-03 20:04 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-26 20:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-26 21:18 ` Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? [wandering OT] Rob Landley
2001-11-27 0:32 ` Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-27 16:39 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-27 17:42 ` Martin Eriksson
2001-11-28 16:35 ` Ian Stirling
2001-11-26 17:14 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-11-26 20:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-26 21:14 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-11-26 21:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-27 16:36 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-11-27 20:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-11-27 21:28 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-11-27 21:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-11-28 11:53 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2001-11-25 13:52 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2001-11-28 23:25 Frank de Lange
2001-11-29 1:52 ` Matthias Andree
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-28 17:22 David Balazic
2001-11-28 14:36 Galappatti, Kishantha
2001-11-25 1:20 dnu478nt5w@mailexpire.com
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