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From: Kuyo Chang <kuyo.chang@mediatek.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	jstultz <jstultz@google.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/deadline: Fix RT task potential starvation when expiry time passed
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:55:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1103727ffaaf5f4d1b077bc09a3cc5168c5708d.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFV8qeH__bw0chWM@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>

On Fri, 2025-06-20 at 17:22 +0200, Juri Lelli wrote:
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> On 20/06/25 11:00, Kuyo Chang wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the additional explanation.
> 
> The way I understand it now is the following (of course please
> correct
> me if I am still not getting it :)
> 
> - a dl_server is actively servicing NORMAL tasks, but suffers lot of
> IRQ
>   load and cannot make much progress
> - it does anyway make progress, but it reaches
> update_curr_dl_se@throttle
>   only when its current deadline is past rq_clock
> - dl_runtime_exceeded() branch is entered, but start_dl_timer() fails
> as
>   the computed act is still in the past
> - enqueue_dl_entity(REPLENISH) call replenish_dl_entity() which tries
> to
>   add runtime and advance the deadline, but time moved on so far that
>   deadline is still behind rq_clock() and so "DL replenish ..." is
>   printed
> - replenish_dl_new_period() updates runtime and deadline from current
>   clock and the dl-server is put back to run (so it continues to run
>   over/starve FIFO tasks)
> 

Yes, "DL replenish ..." is the critical clue for identifying the root
cause of this issue.

> It looks like your proposed fix might work in this particular corner
> case, but I am not 100% comfortable with not trying to replenish
> properly (catch up with runtime) at all. I wonder if we might then
> start
> missing some other corner case. Maybe we could try to catch this
> particular corner case before even attempting to start the dl_timer,
> since we know it will fail, and do something at that point?
> 

You can consider the patch more as an error-proofing mechanism, and so
far, it has been working well on our platform.
However, it might be better to catch this particular corner case in
advance to prevent the issue.
> Thanks,
> Juri
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-21  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-15 13:10 Kuyo Chang
2025-06-16 15:03 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-18 14:20   ` Kuyo Chang
2025-06-19 13:13     ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20  3:00       ` Kuyo Chang
2025-06-20 15:22         ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-21  2:55           ` Kuyo Chang [this message]
2025-07-23 22:22             ` Pierce Wen (溫彥翔)
2025-07-24  8:23               ` juri.lelli
2025-07-30 10:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-07-31 15:00   ` Christian Loehle
2025-08-15  4:35   ` Jiri Slaby
2025-08-20 12:57   ` Diederik de Haas
2025-08-27  6:45 ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for kuyo chang

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