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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2026 22:57:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqB2oYSzp5xDhfIK@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef19ea63-a4bc-407a-bca2-40a2818a3671@amd.com>

Hi Prateek,

On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 01:39:07AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Andrea,
> 
> On 9/8/2026 1:53 PM, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > NVIDIA Olympus implements spatial SMT with symmetric steady-state PE
> > capacity but two different resource modes. One-Thread Active mode gives
> > one PE the full core, while waking the other PE restores Two-Thread
> > Active mode and partitions decode, issue, cache, TLB, and vector
> > resources. Returning to full-resource mode requires the sibling to
> > remain in WFI for 10 Ki cycles.
> > 
> > Measurements show that pinned workloads perform equally on either PE,
> > but freely migratable workloads lose substantial throughput when they
> > alternate between PE identities. Consistently selecting PE0 keeps PE1
> > idle, avoids repeated SMT repartitioning, and restores
> > one-thread-per-core performance.
> > 
> > Describe this scheduling preference with SD_ASYM_PACKING and give PE0,
> > identified by MPIDR_EL1.Aff0, the higher arch_asym_cpu_priority(). This
> > is independent of SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY: SMT siblings retain equal
> > capacity, while physical cores with different maximum frequencies are
> > handled by a higher scheduling domain.
> > 
> > Firmware currently provides no interface for describing the preferred
> > SMT sibling. Detect Olympus by MIDR until such an interface is
> > available.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
> 
> Feel free to include:
> 
> Reviewed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> Tested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> 
> Just one nit below ...
> > +/*
> > + * Switching the active PE on an NVIDIA Olympus SMT core can keep the core in
> > + * two-thread active mode, with resources partitioned between the PEs.
> > + *
> > + * Prefer PE0 so PE1 can remain idle and the core can stay in full-resource
> > + * mode. Firmware does not currently describe this preference, so detect
> > + * Olympus by MIDR until a firmware interface is available.
> > + */
> > +static bool olympus_prefer_pe0 __ro_after_init;
> 
> nit. What is the purpose of "olympus_prefer_pe0"?
> 
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_SMT
> > +static int arm64_smt_flags(void)
> > +{
> > +	int flags = cpu_smt_flags();
> > +
> > +	if (olympus_prefer_pe0)
> > +		flags |= SD_ASYM_PACKING;
> 
> If this flag function is being used, olympus_prefer_pe0 is always true,
> and the scheduler will never call into arch_asym_cpu_priority() without
> SD_ASYM_PACKING being set so olympus_prefer_pe0 is always true there
> too.
> 
> Seems redundant unless you were planning to do set_sched_topology()
> unconditionally for whole of arm64.

Right, there's no plan to install this topology unconditionally.

Since arm64_asym_smt_topology is installed only after detecting an Olympus
system with SMT, the boolean doesn't provide any additional state and can be
removed. I'll do that in the next version.

Thanks!
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-08 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08  8:23 [PATCH v4 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-08  8:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-09-08 20:09   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-08 20:57     ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-09-08  8:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-08 19:40   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-08 20:49     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  6:32       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-09 14:42   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-09 15:18     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 15:42       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-09 16:22         ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  7:20 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09  7:26   ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 12:39     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 13:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-11 22:43         ` Andrea Righi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-09-09  6:26 [PATCH v5 " Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  6:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 15:19   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09 16:17     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-10 10:11       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-11  9:11         ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 14:15           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09 15:34   ` Will Deacon
2026-09-09 16:07     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-10  8:53       ` Will Deacon
2026-09-11  6:50         ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-07 16:30 [PATCH v3 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-07 16:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-09-04  9:18 [PATCH v2 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-04  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-08-31 18:10 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-08-31 18:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-08-31 21:13   ` Christian Loehle
2026-08-31 21:43     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-01  6:05       ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-01  8:32       ` Christian Loehle
2026-09-01 19:38         ` Andrea Righi

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