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From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: <tony.luck@intel.com>, <tglx@kernel.org>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<hpa@zytor.com>, <fenghuay@nvidia.com>, <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	<hongyu.ning@intel.com>, <chen.yu@linux.dev>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hongyu Ning" <hongyu.ning@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 04/12] x86/resctrl: Do not enable ERDT when Sub-NUMA Cluster is enabled
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 16:54:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auBmvjC2ARQ_CNcG@chenyu-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40ed95c5-a103-4139-a802-893c4bc8a497@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 04:54:04PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Chenyu,
> 
> On 10/13/26 7:58 PM, Chen Yu wrote:
> > ERDT cannot coexist with SNC(Sub-NUMA-Clustering). The definition of SNC
> 
> "Sub-NUMA-Clustering" -> "Sub-NUMA-Cluster mode"
>

OK, will change it.

> > is to 'divide' an L3 into smaller L3 slices by mapping addresses to
> > different L3 slices. The current platform with ERDT enabled has several
> > L3 per socket, and it will not be divided into smaller slices.
> > Furthermore, ERDT has only L3 scope for the CPU agent, and there are no
> > node-scope domains.
> > 
> > snc_nodes_per_l3_cache is calculated in rdt_get_l3_mon_config(), which
> > runs after erdt_init() has parsed the ACPI ERDT table. Introduce
> > resctrl_arch_update_snc() to do that calculation and call it from
> > get_rdt_resources() before erdt_init(). Leave ERDT disabled if SNC is
> > detected and keep using the legacy MSR based CMT interface. Do this check
> > while parsing the ERDT table so that platforms that do not provide an
> > ERDT table at all stay silent.
> 
> Please do not just narrate the code in changelog but instead describe
> at high level in regular language what the change does.
>

OK, I'll adjust above commit log accordingly.

> > 
> > Suggested-by: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> > Suggested-by: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> > Tested-by: Hongyu Ning <hongyu.ning@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> 
> 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c
> > index 7fadfebb5312..0ea888807bd0 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c
> > @@ -1018,6 +1018,7 @@ static __init bool get_rdt_resources(void)
> >  {
> >  	bool ret;
> >  
> > +	resctrl_arch_update_snc();
> 
> "resctrl_arch_..." is the common prefix for helpers found in include/linux/resctrl.h that all
> architectures are required to implement.
> Is a helper really needed here? It is just one line, could it just be open coded?
>

OK, let me open-code it.

> >  	erdt_init();
> >  	rdt_alloc_capable = get_rdt_alloc_resources();
> >  	rdt_mon_capable = get_rdt_mon_resources();
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/erdt.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/erdt.c
> > index eb5e262e243a..d94c54617fa1 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/erdt.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/erdt.c
> > @@ -229,6 +229,18 @@ static __init int enumerate_erdt_table(struct acpi_table_header *table_hdr)
> >  		return -EINVAL;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * ERDT describes monitoring resources per L3 cache domain, while SNC
> > +	 * splits an L3 cache into NUMA node scoped monitoring domains. The two
> > +	 * cannot be matched up, so leave ERDT disabled and fall back to the
> > +	 * MSR based CMT interface. snc_nodes_per_l3_cache has been computed by
> 
> "MSR CMT interface" - this restriction is not specific to CMT, is it? Could "CMT"
> just be dropped?
>

Yes, let me drop CMT.

> Last sentence of comment can be dropped. It surely will be a bug if snc_nodes_per_l3_cache
> is not initialized before it is used here and one can just go find where that happens.
>

OK dropped the last sentence.

> > +	 * resctrl_arch_update_snc() before erdt_init() is called.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (snc_nodes_per_l3_cache > 1) {
> 
> Looks like this check occurs *after* parsing of ERDT table already started. Could this
> be moved to be the first check to avoid that unnecessary work?
>

Yes, let me move it at the beginning of enumerate_erdt_table().

> > +		pr_info("Not supported with Sub-NUMA Cluster enabled, using legacy CMT\n");
> 
> "using legacy CMT" ERDT is not limited to CMT so this can just be dropped?
> I understand that the pr_info() adds an "ERDT:" prefix but I think it will be useful
> to include in this message that ERDT in its entirety is not supported:
>  "ERDT not supported with Sub-NUMA Cluster enabled".
>

OK, this was not specific to CMT, so I dropped the "CMT" term and changed it as
you suggested.

> I think this work could be integrated better by switching the order between
> this patch and "x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI ERDT table and save CACD cpumask per RMD",
> separating the change to where snc_nodes_per_l3_cache is initialized and the new
> dependency by moving just this hunk to "x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI ERDT table and save
> CACD cpumask per RMD" with a note in the changelog that ERDT and SNC are not compatible.
> 

OK, a new patch is introduced
"x86/resctrl: Detect Sub-NUMA Cluster mode before enumerating resources"
to initialize the snc_nodes_per_l3_cache earlier, and keep the
"snc_nodes_per_l3_cache > 1" check in current patch.

> > +__init void resctrl_arch_update_snc(void)
> > +{
> > +	snc_nodes_per_l3_cache = snc_get_config();
> > +}
> > +
> 
> This looks unnecessary. Could all these references to snc_nodes_per_l3_cache be dropped
> from monitor.c?
> Definition of snc_nodes_per_l3_cache could be moved to core.c where it is
> initialized now and its initialization could just be open coded in get_rdt_resources().
> 

Yes, I moved the definition of snc_nodes_per_l3_cache to core.c and initialize
it there, but we cannot move all references to snc_nodes_per_l3_cache out of monitor.c
for now because several places in monitor.c use it. After all, IMHO snc_nodes_per_l3_cache
was mainly introduced to deal with MBM.

 grep -r -n "snc_nodes_per_l3_cache" arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c
101: * "snc_nodes_per_l3_cache == 1") no translation of the RMID value is
129:    if (snc_nodes_per_l3_cache == 1)
132:    return lrmid + (cpu_to_node(cpu) % snc_nodes_per_l3_cache) * r->mon.num_rmid;
384:    if (snc_nodes_per_l3_cache > 1)
457:    hw_res->mon_scale = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_occ_scale / snc_nodes_per_l3_cache;
458:    r->mon.num_rmid = (max_rmid + 1) / snc_nodes_per_l3_cache;

thanks,
Chenyu
> >  int __init rdt_get_l3_mon_config(struct rdt_resource *r)
> >  {
> >  	unsigned int mbm_offset = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_mbm_width_offset;
> > @@ -423,8 +428,6 @@ int __init rdt_get_l3_mon_config(struct rdt_resource *r)
> >  	unsigned int threshold;
> >  	u32 eax, ebx, ecx, edx;
> >  
> > -	snc_nodes_per_l3_cache = snc_get_config();
> > -
> >  	resctrl_rmid_realloc_limit = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_size * 1024;
> >  	hw_res->mon_scale = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_occ_scale / snc_nodes_per_l3_cache;
> >  	r->mon.num_rmid = (boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_max_rmid + 1) / snc_nodes_per_l3_cache;
> 
> Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-14  2:56 [PATCH v9 00/12] Introduce MMIO-based CMT access for Enhanced RDT Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:57 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] x86/topology: Export topo_lookup_cpuid() for resctrl use Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] x86/resctrl: Require 64-bit x86 for resctrl support Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  7:54     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI ERDT table and save CACD cpumask per RMD Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:50   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  8:14     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] x86/resctrl: Do not enable ERDT when Sub-NUMA Cluster is enabled Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  8:54     ` Chen Yu [this message]
2026-10-27 16:16       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-28  2:44         ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] x86/resctrl: Attach ACPI ERDT information to L3 mon domain on CPU online Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-24  0:37     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:36     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-27 16:17       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-28  2:57         ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] x86,fs/resctrl: Move resctrl_arch_round_mon_val() out of line Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:39     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] x86/resctrl: Add a global ERDT monitor scale Chen Yu
2026-10-24  0:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:53     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI CMRC table Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] x86/resctrl: Refactor the monitor read function Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] fs/resctrl: Do not invoke smp_processor_id() in preemptible context Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] x86/resctrl: Introduce erdt_cpu_has() and erdt_support() Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:01 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] x86/resctrl: Add MMIO-based LLC occupancy monitoring support Chen Yu
2026-10-24  0:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 11:22     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-27 16:21       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-28  2:59         ` Chen Yu
2026-10-19 12:45 ` [PATCH v9 00/12] Introduce MMIO-based CMT access for Enhanced RDT Chen Yu

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