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From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: <tony.luck@intel.com>, <tglx@kernel.org>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<hpa@zytor.com>, <fenghuay@nvidia.com>, <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	<hongyu.ning@intel.com>, <chen.yu@linux.dev>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 07/12] x86/resctrl: Add a global ERDT monitor scale
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 18:53:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auCCvYQpfXj9CTgv@chenyu-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e594656-b883-47c3-975c-087d10b98c74@intel.com>

On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 05:02:05PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Chenyu,
> 
> On 10/13/26 7:59 PM, Chen Yu wrote:
> > The limbo handler polls the LLC occupancy of stale RMIDs and frees an RMID
> 
> "stale RMIDs"? This is a new concept unfamiliar to resctrl.
>

OK, changed to "limbo RMIDs".

> > once its occupancy drops below max_threshold_occupancy. User space writes
> 
> Please do not interchangeably use the name of the resctrl file and the variable
> that backs it because the variable that backs the file may not have the value
> that user space wrote to the file.
> 

OK, will use resctrl_rmid_realloc_threshold for the value the limbo handler
compares against, and only mentions "max_threshold_occupancy" as the file
userspace writes to.

> > that threshold in bytes, but the hardware counts occupancy in units of the
> > occupancy scale, so the threshold is rounded down to a multiple of that
> > scale. The scale is the number of bytes one counter unit represents, i.e.
> 
> This does not sound right, the threshold is explicitly noted as:
>  	"This is the threshold cache occupancy in *bytes* ..."
> 

Yes, the threshold is always in bytes, let me rephrase it:
The occupancy counter only has the granularity of its scale, the number of
bytes one counter unit represents, so resctrl_arch_round_mon_val() rounds the
written byte value down to a multiple of that scale before it is stored in
resctrl_rmid_realloc_threshold.

> > the granularity of the occupancy counter.
> > 
> > ERDT may provide per-domain monitoring scale factors, but resctrl rounds
> > max_threshold_occupancy through a single global
> > resctrl_rmid_realloc_threshold value that is visible to user space.
> > 
> > Prepare for that by adding erdt_scale/erdt_get_scale() and teaching
> 
> "Prepare for that" - Prepare for what?
>

Will remove this sentence after rearranging the patch sequence.

> > resctrl_arch_round_mon_val() to consult the ERDT scale when firmware has
> > populated one.
> > 
> > When CMRC parsing provides per-domain up_scale values, erdt_scale will be
> > updated with max(). The reason to use max is because rounding is a floor:
> > a larger scale yields a slightly lower threshold, i.e. an RMID has to
> > drop to a slightly lower occupancy before it is reused.
> > 
> > For now erdt_scale is intentionally left at its default value of 0.
> 
> This is a clear signal that the patch ordering needs to change.
>
> > +/*
> > + * Used only to round the global resctrl_rmid_realloc_threshold for the limbo
> > + * handler. resctrl_rmid_realloc_threshold is exposed to user space as a single
> > + * global value, so ERDT uses one scale derived from the per-domain
> > + * cmrc->up_scale values. max() keeps this single threshold conservative across
> > + * domains because the rounding is a floor: a larger scale yields a slightly
> > + * lower threshold, i.e. an RMID has to drop to a slightly lower occupancy
> > + * before it is reused.
> 
> This documents changes that do not exist at this point in series. Please reorder
> this patch to ensure its dependencies land first.
>

OK, will adjust this patch to include above max() logic and adjust the
patch sequence:
("x86/resctrl: Add the ERDT CMT scale") will be moved after
("x86/resctrl: Introduce erdt_cpu_has() and erdt_support()")
and before
("x86/resctrl: Add MMIO-based LLC occupancy monitoring support")

> > + */
> > +static unsigned int erdt_scale;
> > +
> > +unsigned int erdt_get_scale(void)
> > +{
> > +	return erdt_scale;
> 
> The name and usage implies that this is a global scale. This will become more confusing
> when trying to land the memory bandwidth monitoring changes that have separate scale values.
> 
> Having this change pretend it is a global change and then add a snippet to final
> patch to constrain it with a "if (!erdt_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_CQM_OCCUP_LLC))" just makes
> this work difficult to consume. 
> 
> If this is specific to the CMT scale only then let the global variable and its accessor
> make that obvious. Let this change land after the CMRC parsing and erdt_cpu_has()
> introduction so that it can be introduced as one coherent change.
>

OK, adjusted the patch sequence as suggested.

> >  
> >  unsigned int resctrl_arch_round_mon_val(unsigned int val)
> >  {
> > -	unsigned int scale = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_occ_scale;
> > +	unsigned int scale = erdt_get_scale();
> > +
> > +	if (!scale)
> > +		scale = boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_occ_scale;
> >  
> >  	/* h/w works in units of "boot_cpu_data.x86_cache_occ_scale" */
> 
> The fixup of this comment found in patch #12 needs to be squashed here.
>

OK, will do.

thanks,
Chenyu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-14  2:56 [PATCH v9 00/12] Introduce MMIO-based CMT access for Enhanced RDT Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:57 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] x86/topology: Export topo_lookup_cpuid() for resctrl use Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] x86/resctrl: Require 64-bit x86 for resctrl support Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  7:54     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI ERDT table and save CACD cpumask per RMD Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:50   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  8:14     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] x86/resctrl: Do not enable ERDT when Sub-NUMA Cluster is enabled Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27  8:54     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-27 16:16       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-14  2:58 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] x86/resctrl: Attach ACPI ERDT information to L3 mon domain on CPU online Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-24  0:37     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:36     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-27 16:17       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] x86,fs/resctrl: Move resctrl_arch_round_mon_val() out of line Chen Yu
2026-10-23 23:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:39     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] x86/resctrl: Add a global ERDT monitor scale Chen Yu
2026-10-24  0:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 10:53     ` Chen Yu [this message]
2026-10-14  2:59 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] x86/resctrl: Parse ACPI CMRC table Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] x86/resctrl: Refactor the monitor read function Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] fs/resctrl: Do not invoke smp_processor_id() in preemptible context Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:00 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] x86/resctrl: Introduce erdt_cpu_has() and erdt_support() Chen Yu
2026-10-14  3:01 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] x86/resctrl: Add MMIO-based LLC occupancy monitoring support Chen Yu
2026-10-24  0:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-27 11:22     ` Chen Yu
2026-10-27 16:21       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-19 12:45 ` [PATCH v9 00/12] Introduce MMIO-based CMT access for Enhanced RDT Chen Yu

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