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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
Cc: Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
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	 Stuart Clark <stuclar@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 16:21:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avZXuHWBUTJvJnEu@devvm16445.scu0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cxsarvwd.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us>

On 11/12, Björn Töpel wrote:
> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/11, Björn Töpel wrote:
> >> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > On 11/10, Björn Töpel wrote:
> 
> >> >> +	if (static_branch_unlikely(&page_pool_mem_providers) &&
> >> >> +	    WARN_ON_ONCE(!page_pool_supports_frag(pool)))
> >> >> +		return 0;
> >> >>  	if (WARN_ON(size > max_size))
> >> >>  		return 0;
> >> >>  
> >> >
> >> > What's the deal with that? How do we get here?
> >> 
> >> Hey! Thanks for taking a look at the series!
> >> 
> >> An explicit frag call on a whole-buffer provider is a driver bug: UMEM
> >> chunks can be smaller than a page, and RX gives the whole chunk to
> >> userspace.
> >> 
> >> But page_pool_alloc_netmem() also picks frags for small requests, so a
> >> valid call can warn.
> >> 
> >> I think it would be better to make it return a whole buffer and its
> >> actual size. The WARN stays in the frag API, before taking a new buffer?
> >> Wdyt?
> >
> > I see.. Idk, I'd still return 0 here, but without a warn. Not sure
> > we want a warn for any api misuse? Returning no netmem is gonna be enough
> > to debug things? As for the calls from page_pool_alloc_netmem, I'd also
> > handle it explicitly? if (size > max_size || !page_pool_supports_frag) ?
> > But no strong preference, up to you, was mostly trying to understand
> > what we are warning against here :-)
> 
> Yes, page_pool_alloc_netmem() gets the explicit check. Thanks!
> 
> For the frag API I'd keep a WARN_ON_ONCE, like the size check right
> below it. A silent 0 looks like an empty provider: the queue just
> stalls, and nothing points at the driver. With the helper fixed, only an
> explicit frag call on such a pool gets there... Wdyt? I'll probably take
> that route for v2.

I guess, yeah, makes sense, let's return full size and warn. Maybe also
a short comment will help to explain why?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-10 10:20 [PATCH net-next v1 00/11] xsk: Zero copy through page-pool memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/11] net: Get skb fragment addresses through netmem Björn Töpel
2026-11-12  8:32   ` saeed bishara
2026-11-12 13:57     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:19   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 12:41     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:01       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:01         ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-13  0:21           ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:32   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:27     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:05       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/11] xsk: Allocate UMEM chunks through page_pool Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 15:08   ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 13:51     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:02   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:59     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:09       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:50   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 14:01     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11  8:59   ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 19:26     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12  8:08       ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:53   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 14:48     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 15:43       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 19:51         ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/11] page_pool: Coordinate refill with memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:51   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 19:37     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 23:13       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 14:53         ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/11] xsk: Deliver provider chunks without copying Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-11 23:20   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 15:10     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-12 12:17   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 19:57     ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/11] eth: fbnic: Support XDP redirect Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/11] eth: fbnic: Use netmem for RX headers and XDP_TX Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/11] eth: fbnic: Support RX buffers it cannot split Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 21:45   ` Dimitri Daskalakis
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/11] eth: fbnic: Support AF_XDP page pool zero copy Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 22:41   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-12 11:37   ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2026-11-12 20:03     ` Björn Töpel

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