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From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
	"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
	"Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
	"Paul Jackson" <pj@sgi.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	miaox@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: current linux-2.6.git: cpusets completely broken
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:53:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0807130253t32904430x5ca942783d01ce99@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807121607160.2959@woody.linux-foundation.org>

2008/7/13 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>>
>> try_to_wake_up() -> ... -> wake_idle() does not see "cpu_active_map".
>
> You're right. I missed a couple places, because that migrate code not only
> ends up using "cpu_is_offline()" instead of "!cpu_online()" (so my greps
> all failed), and because it has those online checks in multiple places.
> Grr.
>
> So it would need to change a few other "cpu_is_offline()" calls to
> "!cpu_active()" instead (in __migrate_task at a minimum).

it should have checked the result of select_task_rq() in
try_to_wake_up() or modify wake_idle() alternatively.

And let me explain one last time why I opposed your 'cpu_active_map' approach.

I do agree that there are likely ways to optimize the hotplug
machinery but I have been focused on fixing bugs in a scope of the
current framework trying to keep it intact with _minimal_ changes (as
it's probably .26 material).

The current way to synchronize with the load-balancer is to attach
NULL domains to all sched-domains upon CPU_DOWN_PREPARE and rebuild
sched-domains upon CPU_DOWN, effectively making the load-balancer
'blind' (and this way it's workable indeed). Perhaps it's an overkill
and something like being proposed by Miao or you should be
considered/tried as an alternative.

Even if we place "!cpu_active()" in all the load-balancer-related
places (btw., we can also do it with !cpu_online() / cpu_offline() as
Miao did with his initial patch) :

(1) common_cpu_mem_hotplug_unplug() -> rebuild_sched_domain() is still
called pretty "randomly" (breaking the aforementioned model). At the
very least it's an overkill;

(2) sched-domains are broken (at least while CPU_{UP,DOMS} ops. are in
progress) and in this state they are still used in a number of places.
That's just illogic;

With (2) in place, "cpu_mask_active" acts as a workaround to the
existing (broken by CPUSETS) model.
If we want "cpu_mask_active" as a primary solution, then the current
model should be altered (presumably, we don't need NULL domains any
more). Otherwise, it's kind of a strange (illogical) hybrid.


>
>                Linus
>

-- 
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-13  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-11 19:07 Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 19:36 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-11 19:43   ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 20:07     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:03     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-11 23:19       ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:53         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12  3:17       ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12  3:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:00           ` Miao Xie
2008-07-12 11:05             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:04           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:19             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 20:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 21:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:43                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 23:01                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:00                   ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 23:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:19                       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:25                         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:05                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:17                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13  9:53                         ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2008-07-13 17:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 17:42                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 17:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:13                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 18:19                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 18:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:20                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:25                       ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 15:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 15:49                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-14 22:38                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-14 23:05                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  0:00                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15  0:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  2:21                         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15  3:03                           ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15  4:12                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  8:32                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15  8:42                                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15  8:57                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15  9:12                                     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16  6:35                                     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16  7:10                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-16 17:01                                         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15  3:23                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15  3:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  3:47                         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15  4:04                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  4:16                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-12 10:45 Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 11:14 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13  0:10   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13  8:50     ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13  9:41       ` Ingo Molnar

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