From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
"Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
"Paul Jackson" <pj@sgi.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
miaox@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: current linux-2.6.git: cpusets completely broken
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:13:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0807131113o7103215u823e71fb4aa92e17@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807131041240.2959@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008/7/13 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>:
>
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>> The thing is, we should fix the top level code to never even _consider_ an
>> invalid CPU as a target, and that in turn should mean that all the other
>> code should be able to just totally ignore CPU hotplug events.
>
> IOW, I think we should totally remove the whole "update_sched_domains()"
> thing too. Any logic that needs it is broken. We shouldn't detach the
> scheduler domains in DOWN_PREPARE (much less UP_PREPARE), we should just
> leave them damn well alone.
>
> As the comment says, "The domains and groups cannot be updated in place
> without racing with the balancing code". The thing is, we shouldn't even
> try. The correct way to handle all this is to make the balancing code use
> the domains regardless, but protect against CPU's going down with
> _another_ data structure that is much easier to update.
>
> Namely something like 'cpu_active_map'.
>
> Then we just get rid of all the crap in update_sched_domains() entirely,
> and then we can make the cpusets code do the *sane* thing, which is to
> rebuild the scheduler domains only when the CPU up/down has completed.
>
> So instead of this illogical and crazy mess:
>
> + switch (phase) {
> + case CPU_UP_CANCELED:
> + case CPU_UP_CANCELED_FROZEN:
> + case CPU_DOWN_FAILED:
> + case CPU_DOWN_FAILED_FROZEN:
> + case CPU_ONLINE:
> + case CPU_ONLINE_FROZEN:
> + case CPU_DEAD:
> + case CPU_DEAD_FROZEN:
> + common_cpu_mem_hotplug_unplug(1);
>
> it should just say
>
> + switch (phase) {
> + case CPU_ONLINE:
> + case CPU_ONLINE_FROZEN:
> + case CPU_DEAD:
> + case CPU_DEAD_FROZEN:
> + common_cpu_mem_hotplug_unplug(1);
>
> because it only makes sense to rebuild the scheduler domains when the
> thing SUCCEEDS.
>
> See? By having a sane design, the code is not just more robust and easy to
> follow, you can also simplify it and make it more logical.
Yes, I agree. And I did _not_ say that the current design is sane. My
impression about changes acceptable during a late release cycle was
utterly CRAPPY (indeed, it's always better to immediately fix a
problem the right way, not just add another patch and pray it doesn't
break somewhere else).
>
> Linus
>
--
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-13 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-11 19:07 Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 19:36 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-11 19:43 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 20:07 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:03 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-11 23:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 3:17 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:00 ` Miao Xie
2008-07-12 11:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:04 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:43 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:00 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:19 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 9:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 17:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:13 ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2008-07-13 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 15:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 15:49 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-14 22:38 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-14 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 0:00 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:21 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 3:03 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 4:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 8:42 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 9:12 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 6:35 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-16 17:01 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 3:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 3:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 4:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 4:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-12 10:45 Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 11:14 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 0:10 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 8:50 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
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