From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>,
"Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
"Paul Jackson" <pj@sgi.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
miaox@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: current linux-2.6.git: cpusets completely broken
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:00:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0807141700s20e54fbewafb3d3e296e57f53@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807141602250.3017@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008/7/15 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>:
>
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>>
>> cpu_clear(cpu, cpu_active_map); _alone_ does not guarantee that after
>> its completion, no new tasks can appear on (be migrated to) 'cpu'.
>
> But I think we should make it do that.
>
> I do realize that we "queue" processes, but that's part of the whole
> complexity. More importantly, the people who do that kind of asynchronous
> queueing don't even really care - *if* they cared about the process
> _having_ to show up on the destination core, they'd be waiting
> synchronously and re-trying (which they do).
>
> So by doing the test for cpu_active_map not at queuing time, but at the
> time when we actually try to do the migration,
> we can now also make that
> cpu_active_map be totally serialized.
>
> (Of course, anybody who clears the bit does need to take the runqueue lock
> of that CPU too, but cpu_down() will have to do that as it does the
> "migrate away live tasks" anyway, so that's not a problem)
The 'synchronization' point occurs even earlier - when cpu_down() ->
__stop_machine_run() gets called (as I described in my previous mail).
My point was that if it's ok to have a _delayed_ synchronization
point, having it not immediately after cpu_clear(cpu, cpu_active_map)
but when the "runqueue lock" is taken a bit later (as you pointed out
above) or __stop_machine_run() gets executed (which is a sync point,
scheduling-wise),
then we can implement the proper synchronization (hotplugging vs.
task-migration) with cpu_online_map (no need for cpu_active_map).
Note, currently, _not_ all places in the scheduler where an actual
migration (not just queuing requests) takes place do the test for
cpu_offline(). Instead, they (blindly) rely on the assumption that if
a cpu is available via sched-domains, then it's guaranteed to be
online (and can be migrated to).
Provided all those places had cpu_offline() (additionally) in place,
the bug which has been discussed in this thread would _not_ happen
and, moreover, we would _not_ need to do all the fancy "attach NULL
domains" sched-domain manipulations (which depend on DOWN_PREPARE,
DOWN and other hotpluging events). We would only need to rebuild
domains once upon CPU_DOWN (on success).
p.s. hope my point is more understandable now (or it's clear that I'm
missing something at this late hour :^)
>
> Linus
>
--
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-15 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-11 19:07 Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 19:36 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-11 19:43 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 20:07 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:03 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-11 23:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 3:17 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:00 ` Miao Xie
2008-07-12 11:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:04 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:43 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:00 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:19 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 9:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 17:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:13 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 15:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 15:49 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-14 22:38 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-14 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 0:00 ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2008-07-15 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:21 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 3:03 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 4:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 8:42 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 9:12 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 6:35 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-16 17:01 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 3:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 3:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 4:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 4:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-12 10:45 Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 11:14 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 0:10 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 8:50 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
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