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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, seanjc@google.com,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/3] x86/msr: Switch between WRMSRNS and WRMSR with the alternatives mechanism
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:34:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0dfe1ee-accc-4202-8f26-574124f40e22@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc7c6c55-23fa-4cb3-a6b4-7558c45bf1d0@citrix.com>

On 16/08/2024 11:27 pm, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 16/08/2024 10:26 pm, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 8/16/24 11:40, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> As the CALL instruction is 5-byte long, and we need to pad nop for both
>>>> WRMSR and WRMSRNS, what about not using segment prefix at all?
>> You can use up to 4 prefixes of any kind (which includes opcode
>> prefixes before 0F) before most decoders start hurting, so we can pad
>> it out to 5 bytes by doing 3f 3f .. .. ..
>>
>>> My suggestion, not that I've had time to experiment, was to change
>>> paravirt to use a non-C ABI and have asm_xen_write_msr() recombine
>>> edx:eax into rsi.  That way the top level wrmsr() retains sensible
>>> codegen for native even when paravirt is active.
>>>
>> I have attached what should be an "obvious" example... famous last words.
> Ah, now I see what you mean about Xen's #GP semantics.
>
> That's a neat way of doing it.  It means the faulting path will really
> take 2 faults on Xen, but it's a faulting path anyway so speed is
> already out of the window.
>
> Do you mind about teaching the #UD handler to deal with WRMSR like that?
>
> I ask, because I can't think of anything nicer.
>
> There are plenty of 3-byte instructions which #GP in PV guests (CPL3),
> and LTR is my go-to for debugging purposes, as it's not emulated by Xen.
>
> Anything here (and it can't be an actual WRMSR) will be slightly
> confusing to read in an OOPS, especially #UD for what is logically a #GP.
>
> But, a clear UD of some form in the disassembly is probably better than
> a random other instruction unrelated to the operation.
>
> ~Andrew

Oh, P.S.

We can probably drop most of the register manipulation by making the new
xen_do_write_msr be no_caller_saved_registers.  As we're intentionally
not a C ABI to start with, we might as well not spill registers we don't
use either.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-16 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-07  5:47 [PATCH v1 0/3] x86: Write FRED RSP0 on return to userspace Xin Li (Intel)
2024-08-07  5:47 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] x86/entry: Test ti_work for zero before processing individual bits Xin Li (Intel)
2024-08-07 16:21   ` Brian Gerst
2024-08-07 23:03     ` Xin Li
2024-08-07 18:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-07 18:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-07 23:01     ` Xin Li
2024-08-07  5:47 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] x86/msr: Switch between WRMSRNS and WRMSR with the alternatives mechanism Xin Li (Intel)
2024-08-07 18:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-09 23:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2024-08-10  0:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-10  0:25       ` Andrew Cooper
2024-08-16 17:52     ` Xin Li
2024-08-16 18:40       ` Andrew Cooper
2024-08-16 19:18         ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-16 21:45           ` Andrew Cooper
2024-08-16 21:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-16 22:27           ` Andrew Cooper
2024-08-16 22:34             ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2024-08-16 23:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-16 22:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-17 23:51             ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-17 14:23       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-17 14:43         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-17 15:44           ` Xin Li
2024-08-17 19:22           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-18  5:59             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-17 19:22         ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-18  5:49           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-18  6:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-08-07  5:47 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] x86/entry: Set FRED RSP0 on return to userspace instead of context switch Xin Li (Intel)
2024-08-07 18:39   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-07 21:55     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-07 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-09 10:45   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-09 17:37     ` Xin Li
2024-08-09 22:43       ` H. Peter Anvin

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