From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
To: casey@schaufler-ca.com
Cc: Giuseppe Bilotta <bilotta78@hotpop.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:17:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1166696277.20388.4.camel@tara.firmix.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <344390.21084.qm@web36607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 16:38 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:
[...]
> The argument that a hardware company usually
> invokes is that, while they don't give a horse's
> pitute about the software itself, they do care
> about the information the software contains
> about their hardware. The concern is that
> publishing the software under any form of open
> or free license would be seen as publishing
> the details of the hardware, thus making any
> claims that they attempted to protect thier
> intellectual property void. They would sell
> less hardware because they would have no legal
> recourse against anyone who "stole" the secrets
> to their hardware.
The more realistic and more expensive threat is not the above (yes, one
can "copy" an already released product after reverse enginnering and
also try to sell it but how long - in calendar time - does this take?
And during that time the original is sold all the time) but it is much
easier to detect (real or potential) patent violations and the fun
begins probably.
And ATM is is practically not possible to build anything remotely
"technical" without violating hundreds of patents somewhere (they may be
legal or "illegal" or trivial or software as such but if a patent is
granted it is there).
> I make no claims to understanding the legal
> basis for this position. I don't even know if
> I think it makes sense. I have heard it often
> enough to understand that many people believe
> it though.
Bernd
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-15 21:20 Binary Drivers James Porter
2006-12-15 21:59 ` Alan
2006-12-15 22:00 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-12-15 22:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16 1:57 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-16 18:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 16:33 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 17:43 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-21 19:10 ` Tomas Carnecky
[not found] ` <f0e2c5070612211120wa6e3402p2ffb6e1d579a485a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-21 19:42 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-21 22:36 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-21 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 20:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 22:02 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 20:50 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-21 20:58 ` David Lang
2006-12-21 21:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-21 22:12 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 23:20 ` Martin Mares
2006-12-22 0:38 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 9:47 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-23 1:04 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-16 3:56 ` jdow
2006-12-16 4:59 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-16 8:12 ` Horses and donkeys [Re: Binary Drivers] Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 18:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Binary Drivers Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 9:07 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-17 12:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-18 21:34 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Hannu Savolainen
2006-12-19 0:10 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-12-20 22:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-12-21 0:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-12-21 10:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2006-12-21 18:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 11:59 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-24 6:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-31 12:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-31 13:03 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-31 17:09 ` Alan
2007-01-02 2:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 4:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 5:06 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 6:30 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 9:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 12:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 19:23 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-03 8:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 12:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-02 15:15 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 15:18 ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-02 16:33 ` James Simmons
2007-01-02 17:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 20:20 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 19:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-02 20:01 ` OT Coffee (was " Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 20:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-01-02 23:01 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-04 0:50 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 21:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-01-02 22:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-02 19:04 ` [OT] Hot coffee (was: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)) Steven Rostedt
2007-01-02 10:40 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Alan
2006-12-18 9:51 ` Binary Drivers Bernd Petrovitsch
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2007-01-02 18:44 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Bodo Eggert
2007-01-02 20:14 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 20:14 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 23:52 ` Brian Beattie
2007-01-03 0:43 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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