mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
To: Trent Waddington <trent.waddington@gmail.com>
Cc: "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>,
	Giuseppe Bilotta <bilotta78@hotpop.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:40:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1167730833.12526.35.camel@tara.firmix.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d57814d0701012230v2e8b31eeqef7e542d73fc08d9@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 16:30 +1000, Trent Waddington wrote:
[...]
> I think you're repeating a myth that has become a common part of
> hacker lore in recent years.  It's caused by how little we know about
> software patents.  The myth is that if you release source code which
> violates someone's patent that is somehow worse than if you release
> binaries that violate someone's patent.  This is clearly, obviously,
> false.  If you're practising the invention without a license in your
> source code then you're practising the invention without a license in
> binaries compiled from that source code.  Period.

While this is true (at last in theory), there is one difference in
practice: It is *much* easier to prove a/the patent violation if you
have (original?) source code than to reverse engineer the assembler dump
of the compiled code and prove the patent violation far enough to get to
a so-called "agreement" on the costs.

> Nvidia are not releasing source code to their drivers for one reason:
> it's not their culture.  They don't see the need.  They don't see the
> benefit.

Which also may well be true.

	Bernd
-- 
Firmix Software GmbH                   http://www.firmix.at/
mobil: +43 664 4416156                 fax: +43 1 7890849-55
          Embedded Linux Development and Services


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-02  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-15 21:20 Binary Drivers James Porter
2006-12-15 21:59 ` Alan
2006-12-15 22:00   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:31   ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-12-15 22:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16  1:57   ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-16 18:03     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:34     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 16:33       ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 17:43         ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-21 19:10           ` Tomas Carnecky
     [not found]             ` <f0e2c5070612211120wa6e3402p2ffb6e1d579a485a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-21 19:42               ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-21 22:36                 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-21 20:32             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 20:18         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 22:02           ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 20:50         ` David Schwartz
2006-12-21 20:58           ` David Lang
2006-12-21 21:20           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-21 22:12           ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 23:20             ` Martin Mares
2006-12-22  0:38             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  9:47           ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-23  1:04           ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-16  3:56   ` jdow
2006-12-16  4:59     ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-16  8:12     ` Horses and donkeys [Re: Binary Drivers] Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 18:05       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 11:44   ` Binary Drivers Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16  8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-16  9:07 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-17 12:17   ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-18 21:34   ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Hannu Savolainen
2006-12-19  0:10     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-12-20 22:06     ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-12-21  0:38       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-12-21 10:17         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-21 18:16       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 11:59         ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-24  6:35           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-31 12:41           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-31 13:03             ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-31 17:09               ` Alan
2007-01-02  2:42                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02  4:04               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02  5:06                 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02  6:30                 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02  9:40                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2007-01-02 11:26                     ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 12:06                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 19:23                         ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-03  8:59                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 12:50                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-02 13:22                         ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-02 15:15                           ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 15:18                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-02 16:33                               ` James Simmons
2007-01-02 17:13                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 20:20                               ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 19:30                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-02 20:01                               ` OT Coffee (was " Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 20:17                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-01-02 23:01                                   ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03  5:55                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-04  0:50                                       ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 21:11                             ` Neil Brown
2007-01-02 22:26                               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-02 19:04                           ` [OT] Hot coffee (was: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)) Steven Rostedt
2007-01-02 10:40                   ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Alan
2006-12-18  9:51 ` Binary Drivers Bernd Petrovitsch
     [not found] <7uAGw-3Iv-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <7uRnY-79h-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7y8iz-4ja-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7y8BW-508-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <7yJ8q-3pb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <7yLtz-6Mo-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <7yOrx-2MT-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <7yQ0n-5mn-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <7yRpt-7tY-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <7yRSr-8mS-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <7yTAS-2IG-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-01-02 18:44                     ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Bodo Eggert
2007-01-02 20:14                       ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 20:14                       ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 23:52                         ` Brian Beattie
2007-01-03  0:43                           ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03  5:43                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1167730833.12526.35.camel@tara.firmix.at \
    --to=bernd@firmix.at \
    --cc=Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu \
    --cc=bilotta78@hotpop.com \
    --cc=erik@harddisk-recovery.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=trent.waddington@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

Powered by JetHome