From: "Trent Waddington" <trent.waddington@gmail.com>
To: "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Cc: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <bernd@firmix.at>,
"Erik Mouw" <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>,
"Giuseppe Bilotta" <bilotta78@hotpop.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:30:49 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d57814d0701012230v2e8b31eeqef7e542d73fc08d9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200701020404.l0244n3b024582@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
On 1/2/07, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> The binary blob in question is several megabytes in size. Now, even
> totally *ignoring* who knowingly licensed/stole/whatever IP from who,
> that *still* leaves the problem of trying to write several megabytes of
> code that doesn't infringe on anybody's IP - particularly some of those
> vague submarine patents that should have been killed on "prior art" or
> "obviousness" grounds.
>
> So tell me - how *do* you release that much code without worrying about IP
> issues?
I'm going to try really hard to ignore how flammable your response
is.. I guess I deserve it.
I think you're repeating a myth that has become a common part of
hacker lore in recent years. It's caused by how little we know about
software patents. The myth is that if you release source code which
violates someone's patent that is somehow worse than if you release
binaries that violate someone's patent. This is clearly, obviously,
false. If you're practising the invention without a license in your
source code then you're practising the invention without a license in
binaries compiled from that source code. Period.
Nvidia are not releasing source code to their drivers for one reason:
it's not their culture. They don't see the need. They don't see the
benefit.
Trent
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-02 6:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-15 21:20 Binary Drivers James Porter
2006-12-15 21:59 ` Alan
2006-12-15 22:00 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-12-15 22:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16 1:57 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-16 18:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 16:33 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 17:43 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-21 19:10 ` Tomas Carnecky
[not found] ` <f0e2c5070612211120wa6e3402p2ffb6e1d579a485a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-21 19:42 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-21 22:36 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-21 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 20:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 22:02 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 20:50 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-21 20:58 ` David Lang
2006-12-21 21:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-21 22:12 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 23:20 ` Martin Mares
2006-12-22 0:38 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 9:47 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-23 1:04 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-16 3:56 ` jdow
2006-12-16 4:59 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-16 8:12 ` Horses and donkeys [Re: Binary Drivers] Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 18:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Binary Drivers Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 9:07 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-17 12:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-18 21:34 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Hannu Savolainen
2006-12-19 0:10 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-12-20 22:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-12-21 0:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-12-21 10:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-21 18:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 11:59 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-24 6:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-31 12:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-31 13:03 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-31 17:09 ` Alan
2007-01-02 2:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 4:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 5:06 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 6:30 ` Trent Waddington [this message]
2007-01-02 9:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 12:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 19:23 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-03 8:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 12:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-02 15:15 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 15:18 ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-02 16:33 ` James Simmons
2007-01-02 17:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 20:20 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 19:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-02 20:01 ` OT Coffee (was " Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 20:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-01-02 23:01 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-04 0:50 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 21:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-01-02 22:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-02 19:04 ` [OT] Hot coffee (was: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)) Steven Rostedt
2007-01-02 10:40 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Alan
2006-12-18 9:51 ` Binary Drivers Bernd Petrovitsch
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2007-01-02 18:44 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Bodo Eggert
2007-01-02 20:14 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 20:14 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 23:52 ` Brian Beattie
2007-01-03 0:43 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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