From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/19] sched/fair: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 22:51:12 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a63ee2a-9c1e-4aa3-adb0-012e0eae5dcf@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a098a60d9b4fc8ccea3392096f8bb0cf03af070b.1760206683.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
On 11/10/25 23:54, Tim Chen wrote:
> From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
>
> If the number of active threads within the process
> exceeds the number of Cores(divided by SMTs number)
> in the LLC, do not enable cache-aware scheduling.
> This is because there is a risk of cache contention
> within the preferred LLC when too many threads are
> present.
>
> Reported-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> Signed-off-by: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 79d109f8a09f..6b8eace79eee 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -1240,6 +1240,18 @@ static inline int pref_llc_idx(struct task_struct *p)
> return llc_idx(p->preferred_llc);
> }
>
> +static bool exceed_llc_nr(struct mm_struct *mm, int cpu)
> +{
> + int smt_nr = 1;
> +
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_SMT
> + if (sched_smt_active())
> + smt_nr = cpumask_weight(cpu_smt_mask(cpu));
> +#endif
> +
> + return ((mm->nr_running_avg * smt_nr) > per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu));
In Power10 and Power11 that has SMT8 and LLC size of 4, this would disable
cache aware scheduling even for one thread.
Also, llc_overload_pct already ensures the load on the preferred LLC doesn't
exceed certain capacity. Why is this exceed_llc_nr() check needed? Won't the
existing overload_pct naturally prevent excessive task aggregation by blocking
migrations when the destination LLC reaches ~50% utilization?
Thanks,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy
> +}
> +
> static void account_llc_enqueue(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> {
> int pref_llc;
> @@ -1385,10 +1397,12 @@ void account_mm_sched(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, s64 delta_exec)
>
> /*
> * If this task hasn't hit task_cache_work() for a while, or it
> - * has only 1 thread, invalidate its preferred state.
> + * has only 1 thread, or has too many active threads, invalidate
> + * its preferred state.
> */
> if (epoch - READ_ONCE(mm->mm_sched_epoch) > EPOCH_LLC_AFFINITY_TIMEOUT ||
> - get_nr_threads(p) <= 1) {
> + get_nr_threads(p) <= 1 ||
> + exceed_llc_nr(mm, cpu_of(rq))) {
> if (mm->mm_sched_cpu != -1)
> mm->mm_sched_cpu = -1;
> }
> @@ -1467,6 +1481,11 @@ static void __no_profile task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
> if (p->flags & PF_EXITING)
> return;
>
> + if (get_nr_threads(p) <= 1) {
> + mm->mm_sched_cpu = -1;
> + return;
> + }
> +
> if (!zalloc_cpumask_var(&cpus, GFP_KERNEL))
> return;
>
> @@ -9826,6 +9845,10 @@ static enum llc_mig can_migrate_llc_task(int src_cpu, int dst_cpu,
> if (cpu < 0 || cpus_share_cache(src_cpu, dst_cpu))
> return mig_unrestricted;
>
> + /* skip cache aware load balance for single/too many threads */
> + if (get_nr_threads(p) <= 1 || exceed_llc_nr(mm, dst_cpu))
> + return mig_unrestricted;
> +
> if (cpus_share_cache(dst_cpu, cpu))
> to_pref = true;
> else if (cpus_share_cache(src_cpu, cpu))
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-22 17:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-11 18:24 [PATCH 00/19] Cache Aware Scheduling Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 01/19] sched/fair: Add infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-10-14 19:12 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-10-15 4:54 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-15 19:32 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-16 3:11 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-15 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 16:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-23 7:26 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-27 4:47 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-27 13:35 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 02/19] sched/fair: Record per-LLC utilization to guide cache-aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2025-10-15 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 16:27 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-27 5:01 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-27 14:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-28 2:50 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 03/19] sched/fair: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 04/19] sched/fair: Introduce a static key to enable cache aware only for multi LLCs Tim Chen
2025-10-15 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 16:25 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-15 16:36 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-10-15 17:01 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-16 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-17 2:08 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-16 7:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-27 5:42 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-27 12:56 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-27 23:36 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-29 12:36 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-28 2:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 05/19] sched/fair: Add LLC index mapping for CPUs Tim Chen
2025-10-15 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 20:12 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 06/19] sched/fair: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2025-10-14 5:16 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-15 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16 3:13 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-17 4:50 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-20 9:41 ` Vern Hao
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 07/19] sched/fair: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2025-10-15 12:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 20:03 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-16 7:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16 20:06 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-27 6:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 15:15 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-28 15:46 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-29 4:32 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-29 12:48 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-29 4:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 17:06 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 08/19] sched/fair: Introduce per runqueue task LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2025-10-15 12:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 20:41 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-16 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-21 8:28 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-10-23 6:07 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 09/19] sched/fair: Count tasks prefering each LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2025-10-15 12:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 20:42 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-15 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 20:43 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-27 8:33 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-27 23:19 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 10/19] sched/fair: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2025-10-15 7:23 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-15 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 21:28 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-15 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 16:03 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-24 9:32 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-27 2:00 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-29 9:51 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-29 13:19 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-27 6:29 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 12:11 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 11/19] sched/fair: Identify busiest sched_group for LLC-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2025-10-15 15:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 21:18 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 12/19] sched/fair: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2025-10-27 9:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-27 22:59 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 13/19] sched/fair: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 14/19] sched/fair: Consider LLC preference when selecting tasks for load balancing Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 15/19] sched/fair: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2025-10-28 6:02 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 11:58 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-28 15:30 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-29 4:15 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-29 3:54 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-29 14:23 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-29 21:09 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-30 4:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-30 20:07 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-31 3:32 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-31 15:17 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-11-03 21:41 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-03 22:07 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 16/19] sched/fair: Exclude processes with many threads from cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-10-23 7:22 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 17/19] sched/fair: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2025-10-22 17:21 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2025-10-23 6:55 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 18/19] sched/fair: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2025-10-15 6:57 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-16 4:44 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-11 18:24 ` [PATCH 19/19] sched/fair: Add user control to adjust the tolerance of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2025-10-29 8:07 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-29 12:54 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-14 12:13 ` [PATCH 00/19] Cache Aware Scheduling Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-10-14 21:48 ` Tim Chen
2025-10-15 5:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-15 18:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-10-16 4:57 ` Chen, Yu C
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