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From: Michael Meissner <meissner@spectacle-pond.org>
To: "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" <kernel@blackhole.compendium-tech.com>
Cc: Venkatesh Ramamurthy <Venkateshr@ami.com>,
	"'Dominik Kubla'" <dominik.kubla@uni-mainz.de>,
	"'David Woodhouse'" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"'linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Alan Cox'" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:37:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010116153757.A1609@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E95191@ATL_MS1> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101161154580.17397-100000@sol.compendium-tech.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101161154580.17397-100000@sol.compendium-tech.com>; from kernel@blackhole.compendium-tech.com on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:01:12PM -0800

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:01:12PM -0800, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote:
> 
> > > This is due to the fixed ordering of the scsi drivers. You can change the
> > > order of the scsi hosts with the "scsihosts" kernel parameter. See
> > > linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c
> > 	[Venkatesh Ramamurthy]  I think it would be a nice idea if we can
> > make this process automatic , with out user typing in the order and
> > remembering it. The fact that a kernel developer is not using the machines
> > daily to get his work done should be in our minds. If we do this Linux would
> > become more user friendly
> 
> you're forgetting that in /etc/lilo.conf there is a directive called
> 'append='... all the user has to do is merely add
> 'append="scsihosts=whatever,whatever"' into their config file and rerun
> lilo. problem solved

That's assuming you are using lilo.  Not everybody does or can use lilo, please
don't assume that the way your system gets booted is the way everybody's does,
particularly those on platforms other than the x86.

I must say, as a 5 year Linux user (and 23 year UNIX user/administrator), I do
get tired of having to hunt down and deal with each of these changes that come
up from time to time with Linux (ie, switching from ipfwadm to ipchains to
netfilter, or in this case reordering how scsi adapters/network adapters are
looked up).

> besides, how many 'end-users' do you know of that will have multiple scsi
> adapters in one system? how many end-users -period- will have even a
> *single* scsi adapter in their systems? do we need to bloat the kernel
> with automatic things like this? no... i think it is handled fine the way
> it is. if the user wants to add more than one scsi adapter into his
> system, let him read some documentation on how to do so. (is this even a
> documented feature? if not, i think it should be added to the docs...)

I'm an end-user, and I have 3 scsi-adapters of two different brands in my
system.  Many of the people using Linux in high end things like servers,
etc. will have multiple scsi controlers.  People are using Linux in lots of
things from small embedded devices to large systems, and Linux needs to address
needs in every area.

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-16 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-16 16:43 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 20:37   ` Michael Meissner [this message]
2001-01-16 21:01     ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 21:23       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 23:32     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-17  0:05       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17  0:42       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17  2:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22           ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41         ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-17  9:45       ` Ishikawa
2001-01-17 15:45         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-16 23:51     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22   ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46       ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 21:26     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-18 16:55 David Balazic
2001-01-18 19:49 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 16:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-18 11:01 David Balazic
2001-01-18 11:35 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 13:01   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-01-18 14:03     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-17 11:04 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:56 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:48 David Balazic
2001-01-17 23:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 10:14   ` David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:21 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:28 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan
2001-01-16 22:54 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:14 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:30 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 21:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33   ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16     ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07       ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59         ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-18 22:55             ` David Weinehall
2001-01-16 17:39 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 21:11   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-17  9:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-01-17 10:19         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-19  1:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-17 10:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 23:19         ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:43   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:14     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  0:39       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:59         ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  9:41         ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-16 17:30 Bryan Henderson
2001-01-16 17:04 David Balazic
     [not found] <Venkateshr@ami.com>
2001-01-16 16:56 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 19:52   ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:51 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:09 ` Honza Pazdziora
2001-01-16 16:46 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 17:24   ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 18:22   ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 19:18     ` Matthew D. Pitts
2001-01-16 19:54     ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04     ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-16 16:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-16 17:38 ` Malahal Rao Naineni

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