From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
To: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
Cc: idalton@ferret.phonewave.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:55:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010118235517.B10370@khan.acc.umu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mike@UDel.Edu> <200101171616.LAA01194@localhost.localdomain> <20010118065012.B26045@cadcamlab.org> <20010118095906.A8983@ferret.phonewave.net> <20010118225316.L25659@mea-ext.zmailer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010118225316.L25659@mea-ext.zmailer.org>; from matti.aarnio@zmailer.org on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:53:16PM +0200
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:53:16PM +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:06AM -0800, idalton@ferret.phonewave.net wrote:
> ...
> > > Yes. PCI-based drivers will most likely use bus order since the kernel
> > > provides facilities to do this easily. For a single driver driving
> > > multiple cards on multiple bus types, who knows.
> >
> > Multiple bus types... Compaq server with PCI and EISA, for example? IIRC
> > the EISA bus is bridged onto one of the PCI busses. Perhaps a
> > breadth-first scan; PCI busses first, then bridged devices on PCI, then
> > internal non-PCI busses, then external busses.
> >
> > Are there any systems where a non-PCI bus is not connected through a
> > PCI-foo bridge?
>
> Yes.
>
> Oh, you propably won't meet them in PC world, but pick
> any UltraSPARC; PCI and SBUS are on parallel "hoses".
> ("hose" is term used at Alpha code for the IO-bus to
> CPU/MEMORY bus interface, sort of "north bridge".)
> Actually those UltraSPARC systems have core-bus called UPA,
> and IO-busses, like PCI and SBUS, are connected there...
>
> Also these "big" systems often do come with multiple "hoses"
> of same type.
>
> If you look carefully at intel things, there is this "FSB"
> which is the real core-bus, and IO-busses hang on it.
>
>
> I have never myself seen big Digital Alpha system where IO-
> busses are anything but PCI, but there exists options to place
> there FutureBus+, PCI, VME, TurboChannel, and several other
> DEC proprietary things. With 43-45 bits of physical address
> space out of the processors, it is trivial to plug in multiple
> 32-bit address space busses.
>
> In coherent view NUMA implementation of Linux, there possibly
> comes even the detail about which NUMA node the busses reside at.
I'm pretty sure the IBM PC-Server 700 (8 MCA-slots and 8 PCI-slots
and a lot of other cool stuff) doesn't have the MCA-bus bridged
onto the PCI-bus. Maybe the other way around. I'd be happy to get one
of these machines to test this, but they seem to be a little hard
to get by for free... :^)
/David
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2001-01-16 21:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33 ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16 ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07 ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59 ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-18 22:55 ` David Weinehall [this message]
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2001-01-17 23:19 ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
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2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
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2001-01-16 21:23 ` Michael Meissner
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2001-01-17 0:05 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 0:42 ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 2:14 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22 ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41 ` Douglas Gilbert
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2001-01-17 15:45 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-16 23:51 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46 ` Werner Almesberger
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2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
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2001-01-16 19:54 ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04 ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
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