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From: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
To: idalton@ferret.phonewave.net
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:53:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010118225316.L25659@mea-ext.zmailer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mike@UDel.Edu> <200101171616.LAA01194@localhost.localdomain> <20010118065012.B26045@cadcamlab.org> <20010118095906.A8983@ferret.phonewave.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010118095906.A8983@ferret.phonewave.net>; from idalton@ferret.phonewave.net on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:06AM -0800

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:06AM -0800, idalton@ferret.phonewave.net wrote:
...
> > Yes.  PCI-based drivers will most likely use bus order since the kernel
> > provides facilities to do this easily.  For a single driver driving
> > multiple cards on multiple bus types, who knows.
> 
> Multiple bus types... Compaq server with PCI and EISA, for example? IIRC
> the EISA bus is bridged onto one of the PCI busses. Perhaps a
> breadth-first scan; PCI busses first, then bridged devices on PCI, then
> internal non-PCI busses, then external busses.
> 
> Are there any systems where a non-PCI bus is not connected through a
> PCI-foo bridge?

	Yes.

	Oh, you propably won't meet them in PC world, but pick
	any UltraSPARC; PCI and SBUS are on parallel "hoses".
	("hose" is term used at Alpha code for the IO-bus to
	 CPU/MEMORY bus interface, sort of "north bridge".)
	Actually those UltraSPARC systems have core-bus called UPA,
	and IO-busses, like PCI and SBUS, are connected there...

	Also these "big" systems often do come with multiple "hoses"
	of same type.

	If you look carefully at intel things, there is this "FSB"
	which is the real core-bus, and IO-busses hang on it.


	I have never myself seen big Digital Alpha system where IO-
	busses are anything but PCI, but there exists options to place
	there FutureBus+, PCI, VME, TurboChannel, and several other
	DEC proprietary things.  With 43-45 bits of physical address
	space out of the processors, it is trivial to plug in multiple
	32-bit address space busses.

	In coherent view NUMA implementation of Linux, there possibly
	comes even the detail about which NUMA node the busses reside at.

> -- Ferret

/Matti Aarnio
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-18 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-16 20:14 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:30 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 21:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33   ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16     ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07       ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59         ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53           ` Matti Aarnio [this message]
2001-01-18 22:55             ` David Weinehall
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-18 16:55 David Balazic
2001-01-18 19:49 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 16:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-18 11:01 David Balazic
2001-01-18 11:35 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 13:01   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-01-18 14:03     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-17 11:04 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:56 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:48 David Balazic
2001-01-17 23:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 10:14   ` David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:21 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:28 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan
2001-01-16 22:54 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:39 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 21:11   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-17  9:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-01-17 10:19         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-19  1:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-17 10:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 23:19         ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:43   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:14     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  0:39       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:59         ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  9:41         ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-16 17:30 Bryan Henderson
2001-01-16 17:04 David Balazic
     [not found] <Venkateshr@ami.com>
2001-01-16 16:56 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 19:52   ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:51 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:09 ` Honza Pazdziora
2001-01-16 16:46 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:43 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 20:37   ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 21:01     ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 21:23       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 23:32     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-17  0:05       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17  0:42       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17  2:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22           ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41         ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-17  9:45       ` Ishikawa
2001-01-17 15:45         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-16 23:51     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22   ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46       ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 21:26     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 16:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 17:24   ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 18:22   ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 19:18     ` Matthew D. Pitts
2001-01-16 19:54     ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04     ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-16 16:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-16 17:38 ` Malahal Rao Naineni

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