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From: Eddie Williams <Eddie.Williams@steeleye.com>
To: Venkatesh Ramamurthy <Venkateshr@ami.com>
Cc: "'arjan@fenrus.demon.nl'" <arjan@fenrus.demon.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"'linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:53:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101161653.f0GGrl101735@aslan.sc.steeleye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Venkatesh Ramamurthy <Venkateshr@ami.com>  of "Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:31:25 EST." <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E9518F@ATL_MS1>


Why is this a SCSI ML problem?  The problem is that the OS can't figure out 
where to mount root from.  Sounds like an OS problem.

I think the file system label is the leading candidate to solve this.  One 
really does not care if the root disk is called /dev/sda or /dev/fred.  All 
one cares is that you can boot your system and the right disks are mounted.  
What I have seen so far with the fs label this either does solve this today or 
it can solve this.  I notice today on some systems the entries in /etc/fstab 
already are "deviceless" in that it does not have the disk/partition but 
simply the disk label.

Can lilo use a label for the root disk also?  I have not looked into that yet. 
 If it does not can it?  When I noticed the use of the label in /etc/fstab my 
first thought was "alright, someone is solving this problem."  I have not 
taken the time - not a burning issue with me right now - to see if this is all 
done yet though.

Keep in mind that the example where /dev/sda is where root lies is that "easy" 
case.  The hard case is what happens if someone installs on /dev/sdg.  Now 
they boot up with a disk array turned off.  Is the mid-layer going to figure 
out that what is now /dev/sda suppose to be /dev/sdg?  Or they install to 
/dev/sdb and /dev/sda goes bad so they pull it out?

Eddie 
> > In article <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E9518C@ATL_MS1> you wrote:
> > 
> > > we need some kind of signature being written in the drive, which the
> > kernel
> > > will use for determining the boot drive and later re-order drives, if
> > > required.
> > 
> > Like the ext2 labels? (man e2label)
> 	[Venkatesh Ramamurthy]  This re-ordering of the scsi drives should
> be done by SCSI ML , so is incorporating ext2 fs data structure knowledge on
> the SCSI ML a good idea?. 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-16 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams [this message]
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-18 16:55 David Balazic
2001-01-18 19:49 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 16:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-18 11:01 David Balazic
2001-01-18 11:35 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 13:01   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-01-18 14:03     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-17 11:04 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:56 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:48 David Balazic
2001-01-17 23:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 10:14   ` David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:21 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:28 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan
2001-01-16 22:54 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:14 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:30 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 21:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33   ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16     ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07       ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59         ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-18 22:55             ` David Weinehall
2001-01-16 17:39 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 21:11   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-17  9:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-01-17 10:19         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-19  1:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-17 10:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 23:19         ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:43   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:14     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  0:39       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:59         ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  9:41         ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-16 17:30 Bryan Henderson
2001-01-16 17:04 David Balazic
     [not found] <Venkateshr@ami.com>
2001-01-16 16:56 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 19:52   ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:51 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:09 ` Honza Pazdziora
2001-01-16 16:46 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:43 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 20:37   ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 21:01     ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 21:23       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 23:32     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-17  0:05       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17  0:42       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17  2:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22           ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41         ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-17  9:45       ` Ishikawa
2001-01-17 15:45         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-16 23:51     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22   ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46       ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 21:26     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 16:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 17:24   ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 18:22   ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 19:18     ` Matthew D. Pitts
2001-01-16 19:54     ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04     ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-16 16:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-16 17:38 ` Malahal Rao Naineni

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